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Thursday, August 11, 2011

KUNG SANTO PAPA SI SAN PEDRO BAKIT HINDI BINANGGIT NI SAN PABLO SA SULAT SA MGA TAGA-ROMA?

Sts. Peter & Paul, patrons of Rome

mdizon-cool
said...

: kung papa na si San Pedro bakit hindi man lang binati o nabanggit ni San
Pablo sa sulat niya sa Roma??? Pinakapuno ng Iglesia hindi man lang
nabati..=)

ang dami nyang binati sa sulat..nabanggit ba niya si San Pedro na PAPA na? or binanggit man lang ang pangalan ni Pedro?

sa Chapter 16 ang daming binanggit na pangalan..wala si San Pedro? UNlikely..hehe

=D

Fr. diretsang tanong..ok lang ba na maniwala ako na pangalan ng Iglesia ay Church of God or Church of Christ? =)

Para
kay Job..Basahin mo kasi bible..huwag lang maniwala sa sabi ng
pari..Basahin mo ang mga sulat ni Pablo ang ginamit niya IGlesia ni
Cristo..Iglesia ng Dios..at Siya ay Apostol sa Hentil..

hindi ko
nmn sinabi na siya LANG - ONLY yung Apostol sa Hentil..pero siya yung
"opisyal" na Apostol sa mga Gentiles..kasi sabi niya po yon..HINDI
AKO..heto..

sabi niya,,

"for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles"

o diba..=); August 12, 2011 8:40 AM
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
: [kung papa na si San Pedro bakit hindi man lang binati o nabanggit ni
San Pablo sa sulat niya sa Roma??? Pinakapuno ng Iglesia hindi man lang
nabati..=)]

HA HA HA... SINONG BALIW ANG NAGSABI SA YO NA PAG
HINDI BINATI SA SULAT E HINDI NA SANTO PAPA? SAAN YON SA BIBLIA? CHAPTER
AND VERSE PLEASE. HE HE HE...

BAKIT SI MAMA ELI BA BINATI NI SAN
PABLO SA SULAT NIYA SA MGA TAGA ROMA? SI FELIX Y. MANALO BA AY BINATI
NI SAN PABLO SA SULAT NIYA SA MGA TAGA ROMA? SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLA NA
SI MAMA ELI SORIANO AY PRESIDING MINISTER OF THE CHURCH OF GOD
INTERNATIONAL? SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA O SA LETTER TO THE ROMANS NA SI
FELIX MANALO, ERANYO MANALO AT EDUARDO MANALO AY EXECUTIVE MINISTER OF
THE CHURCH OF CHRIST. PWEDE BA BAGO KAYO MANIRA E GAMITIN MUNA NINYO ANG
UTAK NYO. I-APPLY MUNA NINYO SA INYONG MGA SARILI ANG INYONG MGA
KABALIWAN. HE HE HE...

[ang dami nyang binati sa sulat..nabanggit ba niya si San Pedro na PAPA na? or binanggit man lang ang pangalan ni Pedro?]

BAKIT
NIYA BABATIIN E PAPANO KUNG MAGKASAMA SILA SA ISANG LUGAR NUNG SINULAT NIYA
IYON? BAKIT SI SAN SANTIAGO BA BINATI NIYA? SI ST. JOHN THE BELOVED BA
BINATI NIYA SA LETTER TO THE ROMANS? HINDI RIN. IBIG SABIHIN WALA NA
SILANG AUTHORITY SA CHURCH DAHIL HINDI BINATI. ANG LETTER AY OBVIOUSLY
ADDRESSED TO ORDINARY MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH HINDI SA MGA TOP LEADERS AT
HINDI SA PINAKA-MATAAS NA LEADER. ISA PA, PANAHON NUON NG PERSECUTIONS OF THE CHURCH UNDER EMPEROR NERO. IT WAS NOT ADVISABLE TO POINT OUT THE WHEREABOUTS OF THE LEADERS ESPECIALLY THE MAIN LEADER SUCH AS ST. PETER. THE APOSTLES ARE NOT AFRAID TO DIE BUT THEY WERE ALSO CAREFUL.

[sa Chapter 16 ang daming binanggit na pangalan..wala si San Pedro? UNlikely..hehe]

SO
WHAT? E HINDI NAMAN NA KAILANGAN PANG BANGGITIN ANG PANGALAN NI SAN
PEDRO SA LETTER TO THE ROMANS DAHIL SUPER BANGGIT NA SI PEDRO SA 4
GOSPELS AT SA ACTS OF THE APOSTLES. HE HE HE... ANG PINAKA-MAHALAGANG
DOCUMENTO NG PANANAMPALATAYA AY HINDI NAMAN ANG LETTER TO THE ROMANS
KUNDI ANG APAT NA GOSPELS. DUON HINDI NABANGGIT SI SAN PABLO KUNDI ANG
NAMAMAMAYAGPAG SECOND TO JESUS AY SI SAN PEDRO. HE HE HE... MAS MARAMING
BESES NA BINABASA NG MGA CRISTIANO SA ROMA AT SA BUONG MUNDO ANG MGA
SAYINGS NI JESUS KESA SA SAYINGS NI PABLO. HE HE HE... AT ANG PAGKA PAPA
NI PEDRO AY NANGGALING KAY CRISTO AT HINDI KAY PABLO. HE HE HE...; [Fr. diretsang tanong..ok lang ba na maniwala ako na pangalan ng Iglesia ay Church of God or Church of Christ? =)]

HINDE.
KASI HINDI NAMAN TINURO NG BIBLIA NA PANGALAN YON NG CHURCH. THEY ARE
MERE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE CHURCH. THEN, ANG ORIGINAL NA BIBLE AY GREEK
DAPAT AY GREEK NAME ANG ITAWAG MO SA CHURCH TULAD NG GINAWA NG MGA EARLY CHRISTIANS. BAKIT ENGLISH? TRANSLATION
NA LANG IYON. THEN ANG CHURCH OF GOD AY GINAMIT NG MGA PEKENG RELIHIYON
TULAD NG IGLESIA NI MAMA ELI.

ITO NAMANG CHURCH OF CHRIST AY
MALI. KASI ANG SINABI NI SAN PABLO AY HINDI CHURCH OF CHRIST KUNDI
CHURCHES OF CHRIST. KAYA PALPAK IYAN. THEN, HINDI RIN DAPAT GAMITIN NA
OFFICIAL NAME NG CHURCH DAHIL GINAMIT NG PEKENG ANGHEL NA SI FELIX
MANALO.

[Para kay Job..Basahin mo kasi bible..huwag lang maniwala sa sabi ng pari..]

BRO.
JOV, BASAHIN MO ANG BIBLIA AT WAG MANILWA SA MGA KABALIWAN NG MGA
BAGONG LITAW NA MGA SEKTA NA GALING LANG SA APALIT O SA PUNTA, STA. ANA.
MGA KAMPON NG MGA BULAANG PROPETANG LUMITAW SA MGA HULING PANAHON.

[Basahin mo ang mga sulat ni Pablo ang ginamit niya IGlesia ni Cristo..Iglesia ng Dios..at Siya ay Apostol sa Hentil..]

BASAHIN
MO ANG SINULAT NI SAN PABLO HINDI IGLESIA NI CRISTO KUNDI MGA IGLESIA
NI CRISTO. ANG UNANG ITINAWAG SA SANTA IGLESIA AY EKKLESIA KATH'OLES
MULA SA ORIGINAL BIBLE.

HINGGIL NAMAN SA "APOSTLE TO THE
GENTILES' BAGO TINAWAG NA APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES SI PABLO UNA MUNANG
HINIRANG NG DIOS SI SAN PEDRO UPANG SUMAMPALATAYA ANG MGA HENTIL:

Act
15:7 At pagkatapos ng maraming pagtatalo, ay nagtindig si Pedro, at
sinabi sa kanila, Mga kapatid, nalalaman ninyo na nang unang panahong
nakaraan ay humirang ang Dios sa inyo, upang sa pamamagitan ng aking
bibig ay mapakinggan ng mga Gentil ang salita ng Evangelio, at sila'y
magsisampalataya.

KAYA NGA NAG COUNCIL OF JERUSALEM DAHIL AYAW
PANIWALAAN SI PABLO AT SI BERNABE. KAYA ANG MGA ELDER APOSTLES ANG
NAGRESOLVA NG PAGTATALO. AT ANG DECISION NI SAN PEDRO ANG SINUNOD NI
SANTIAGO AT NG IBA PANG APOSTOLES.

[hindi ko nmn sinabi na siya LANG - ONLY yung Apostol sa Hentil..]

MABUTI
NAMAN DAHIL MAGMUMUKA KANG TANGA KAPAG GINAWA MO IYON. DAHIL ANG MGA
UNANG INATASAN NI CRISTO NA MANGARAL SA BUONG SANLIBUTAN AY ANG ORIGINAL
NA 11 APOSTLES LED BY ST. PETER:

Mateo 28:19 Dahil dito
magsiyaon nga kayo, at gawin ninyong mga alagad ang lahat ng mga bansa,
na sila'y inyong bautismuhan sa pangalan ng Ama at ng Anak at ng
Espiritu Santo...

ANG INATASAN NI CRISTO NG SUSI NG KAHARIAN NG
LANGIT AY SI SAN PEDRO LAMANG [Mateo 16:18-19]. AT SIYA RIN ANG BUKOD
TANGI AT DIRECTANG INUTUSAN NA PAKANIN AT ALAGAAN ANG MGA TUPA NI CRISTO
[Juan 15-17].

[pero siya yung "opisyal" na Apostol sa mga Gentiles..kasi sabi niya po yon..HINDI AKO..heto..

sabi niya,,

"for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles"

o diba..=)]

HA HA HA... ETO NAMAN ULI ANG SABI NI SAN PEDRO:

Act
15:7 At pagkatapos ng maraming pagtatalo, ay nagtindig si Pedro, at
sinabi sa kanila, Mga kapatid, nalalaman ninyo na nang unang panahong
nakaraan ay humirang ang Dios sa inyo, upang sa pamamagitan ng aking
bibig ay mapakinggan ng mga Gentil ang salita ng Evangelio, at sila'y
magsisampalataya.

O AYAN. SI SAN PEDRO BA AY APOSTOL? OO.
ORIGINAL NA APOSTOLES PA. SIYA BA AY HINIRANG NA APOSTOL PARA LANG SA
MGA JUDIO O PARA SA MGA HENTIL DIN? OO DIN. APOSTOL SIYA PARA SA MGA JUDIO AT PARA SA MGA
HENTIL. COMBINED AND FOR EVERYBODY. HE HE HE... SI SAN PEDRO BA APOSTOL
SA MGA HENTIL? OO. HE HE HE... DI BA? HE HE HE... SABI NGA NI SAN PEDRO E: "MGA KAPATID, NALALAMAN NINYO..." E BAKIT MDIZON-COOL E HINDI MO ALAM YAN?; August 12, 2011 12:19 PM

Wednesday, August 3, 2011

QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE CHANGE OF THE POPE'S NAME AFTER PAPAL ELECTION


Anonymous said...: What is the basehan ng kanilang pagpapalit ng name ng Papa, i mean paano
yung pagpili ng name na ipapalit? And why is it that there are other
popes who did not change their names after elected?; August 3, 2011 4:36 PM
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
: [What is the basehan ng kanilang pagpapalit ng name ng Papa, i mean paano yung pagpili ng name na ipapalit?]

ANG
BASEHAN AY ANG MATTHEW 16:18 WHEREIN THE LORD JESUS GAVE A NEW NAME TO
SIMON SON OF JONAH AND CALLED HIM ST. PETER BEFORE GIVING HIM THE KEYS
OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN:

Matthew 16:17-18 "Good for you, Simon son of John!" answered Jesus. "For this truth did not come to you from any human being, but it was given to you directly by my Father in heaven. And so I tell you, Peter: you are a rock, and on this rock foundation I will build my church, and not even death will ever be able to overcome it.

SINCE JESUS CHANGED THE NAME OF SIMON INTO
PETER WHEN HE WAS MADE POPE SO IT BECAME THE BASIS FOR POPES TO CHANGE
THEIR NAMES AFTER THE NAMES OF APOSTLES OR SAINTS EXCEPT PETER OUT OF
RESPECT TO THE FIRST AND ORIGINAL POPE.

[And why is it that there are other popes who did not change their names after elected?]

IT'S
THEIR PREROGATIVE. IT IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE RULE. BESIDES, JESUS DIDN'T
FORBID ST. PETER TO USE HIS ORIGINAL NAME SIMON. ST. PETER WAS ALSO
BEING CALLED CEPHAS WHICH IS THE ARAMAIC EQUIVALENT OF PETROS OR SIMPLY
SIMON HIS ORIGINAL NAME:

Matthew 17:25 "Of course," Peter answered. When Peter went into the house, Jesus spoke up first, "Simon, what is your opinion? Who pays duties or taxes to the kings of this world? The citizens of the country or the foreigners?"

Mark 14:37 Then he returned and found the three disciples asleep. He said to Peter, "Simon, are you asleep? Weren't you able to stay awake for even one hour?"; Luke 22:31 "Simon, Simon! Listen! Satan has received permission to test all of you, to separate the good from the bad, as a farmer separates the wheat from the chaff. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith will not fail. And when you turn back to me, you must strengthen your brothers."; Luke 24:34 and saying, "The Lord is risen indeed! He has appeared to Simon!"

John 21:16 A second time Jesus said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" "Yes, Lord," he answered, "you know that I love you." Jesus said to him, "Take care of my sheep."

THE THREE ARE ALL VALID NAMES FOR ST. PETER.
THUS, IF THE POPE PREFERS TO USE HIS BAPTISMAL NAME THERE IS NO PROBLEM
AND NO VIOLATION COMMITTED. ACTUALLY, EVEN IF THE POPE CHOSE A NEW NAME HE IS STILL CARRYING HIS BAPTISMAL NAME. THUS POPE JOHN XXIII IS STILL BEING CALLED PAPA RONCALI AND JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AS PAPA WOJTYLA...; August 3, 2011 9:49 PM

Sunday, May 15, 2011

THE BIBLICAL ROOT OF THE POPE'S TITLE 'VICAR OF CHRIST' By Ferdinand

St. Peter the Apostle

Ferdinand said...

: Father Abe, other Christian denominations do not understand why we call the pope the “Vicar of Christ”. They simply ignore the fact the Jesus was restoring the kingdom of David which was promised to last forever. The Jews are still waiting for the coming of that king, the Messiah who will restore the kingdom of David. He already came and we crucified him.; "Vicar of Christ" is one of the official titles of the pope.; Jesus = "Son of God,"; Jesus = "Christ,"; both are true. But when it comes to vicariate of the pope, "Christ" is used because of the messianic and kingship role the title "Christ" portrays. Peter is the keeper of the keys of the Kingdom, the one who was authorized by Christ himself. This Authority was not Peter's own authority, but one given to him by his sovereign, Christ the King. That means he acts with Christ's own authority.; These duties are equivalent of a "prime minister" in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the King's trusted "lieutenant." The "prime minister" is over the household", this means that he exercises a unique, final authority in the name of the King (Jesus Christ). Peter was the vice-regent or prime minister, the lieutenant, the second-in-command.; These are all functions, duties and authority done in the name of "CHRIST THE KING." Mt 16:13-20 refers to the 'KING," "THE ANOINTED ONE OF GOD," "THE MESSIAH" DELEGATING HIS AUTHORITY TO HIS "STEWARD", BY THE HANDING OF THE "KEYS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD" TO PETER THE FIRST POPE.; Peter the first pope was given the keys of the Kingdom of heaven. As the first steward of Christ on earth, Peter is the first of many who will govern the Church of Christ from the Chair of St. Peter. The keys are symbolic of the sovereign's (Christ the King) power and authority as they are entrusted to his prime minister to act for the sovereign (Christ the King) in fulfilling the sovereign's (Christ the King) wishes. Christ the king while still retaining his sovereignty, entrusted the keys to the kingdom of heaven to Peter (and his successors) on earth until the end of time (Mt 16: 13-20).; By conferring the "keys of the kingdom" to Peter, Jesus Christ the King devolved a primacy to him in the form of the office of the "steward" or "the one who is over the house", or in modern parlance, as prime minister. The background of the imagery of the Keys is Isa 22:15-25, which all distinguished bible scholars agree lies behind Mat 16:19. Thus, by Christ will (as agreed by God the Father in Matthew 16:17) St Peter comes to hold the position of "lieutenant" and second in command in the restored and everlasting Kingdom, with Jesus Christ Himself on the throne.

: Some commentators have viewed this passage as referring to Christ, but improperly; for the Prophet draws a comparison between two men, Shebna and Eliakim. Shebna shall be deprived of his office, and Eliakim shall succeed him. What has this to do with Christ? For Eliakim was not a type of Christ (king) and the Prophet does not here describe any hidden mystery, but borrows a comparison from the ordinary practice of men, as if the keys were delivered to one who has been appointed to be steward, as has been already said. For the same reason Christ call the office of teaching the word, (Mat 16:19) 'the keys of the kingdom of heaven,' so that it is idle and foolish to spend much time in endeavoring to find a hidden reason, when the matter is plain, and needs no ingenuity. The reason is, that ministers, by the preaching of the word, open the entrance into heaven, and lead to Christ, who alone is the way. By the keys, therefore, he means here that government of the king's house, because the principal charge of it would be delivered to Eliakim at the proper time" (John Calvin, Commentary of the Book of the Prophet Isaiah, 1948, 136-137).; It is by virtue of his title as Christ the king that he appointed Peter as his Vicar.; INCs think that is a blasphemy that we call the pope the “Vicar of Christ”. What is blasphemous about this title? Nothing!! For it is by the authority of the sovereign that the vicar performs his duties as the visible leader of the church. The pope by virtue of his position governs the church of our Lord Jesus Christ. How can a pope usurp what was given to him by his sovereign?; Mt 16:19, Peter is given the keys of kingly authority held by his sovereign, and the priestly and kingly power of binding and loosing.

Some commentators have viewed this passage as referring to Christ, but improperly; for the Prophet draws a comparison between two men, Shebna and Eliakim. Shebna shall be deprived of his office, and Eliakim shall succeed him. What has this to do with Christ? For Eliakim was not a type of Christ (king) and the Prophet does not here describe any hidden mystery, but borrows a comparison from the ordinary practice of men, as if the keys were delivered to one who has been appointed to be steward, as has been already said. For the same reason Christ call the office of teaching the word, (Mat 16:19) 'the keys of the kingdom of heaven,' so that it is idle and foolish to spend much time in endeavoring to find a hidden reason, when the matter is plain, and needs no ingenuity. The reason is, that ministers, by the preaching of the word, open the entrance into heaven, and lead to Christ, who alone is the way. By the keys, therefore, he means here that government of the king's house, because the principal charge of it would be delivered to Eliakim at the proper time" (John Calvin, Commentary of the Book of the Prophet Isaiah, 1948, 136-137).

It is by virtue of his title as Christ the king that he appointed Peter as his Vicar.

INCs think that is a blasphemy that we call the pope the “Vicar of Christ”. What is blasphemous about this title? Nothing!! For it is by the authority of the sovereign that the vicar performs his duties as the visible leader of the church. The pope by virtue of his position governs the church of our Lord Jesus Christ. How can a pope usurp what was given to him by his sovereign?

Mt 16:19, Peter is given the keys of kingly authority held by his sovereign, and the priestly and kingly power of binding and loosing.

Let me borrow the words of various scholars of various denomination regarding the Keys.(taken from Jesus, Peter and the Keys)

Albright and Mann - "The symbol of authority"

Calvin A Protestant reformer - "the office of teaching the word"

IVP Bible Commentary - "delegation of God's sovereignty"

De Vaux - "Master of the house"

Interpreter's Bible - "plenary authority"

Cullman - "authority to establish rules"

France - "making halakhic pronouncements"

Earle - "making decisions based on the teaching of Christ"

IVP Bible commentary - "legislative authority in the Church"

Willoughby - "power to admit, power to exclude"

From these quotes, one can conclude that the Church through her leaders has full authority to prescribe doctrines on matters of faith and morals. Christ made it so with the protection of the Holy Spirit ( John 14:16, 26, 16:13).

So to non-Catholics I ask, would our Lord Jesus Christ leave his kingdom unattended, yes or no, and why?

Knowing the promise of our Lord Jesus that he will be with us forever until the end of times (Mt 28:20) would he leave us unattended even for a second to be ravaged by savage wolves?

Will the Good Shepherd abandon us (Jn 10:16) even for a second?

Would the King who restored the Kingdom of David leave his people unattended without a second in command?

Time for you think about those questions and honestly answer them by using historical and biblical exegesis, and plain common sense.

May 15, 2011 10:24 AM

Tuesday, October 19, 2010

REFUTING ANOTHER ORTHODOX AND HIS COPY-PASTED ANTI-PAPACY MATERIALS, part 5

Saint Peter. Ca 1468. National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C.

PART 4:

http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/refuting-another-orthodox-and-his-copy_6259.html

Joel said...

The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter

The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter, but on Confession of His Faith in Christ as true God and true Man in the One Person of Christ

St. Hilary of Poitiers

St. Hilary of Poitiers: “And this is the Rock of confession whereon the Church is built...that Christ must be not only named, but believed, the Son of God.This faith is that which is the foundation of the Church; through this faith the gates of hell cannot prevail against her. This is the faith which has the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatsoever this faith shall have loosed or bound on earth shall be loosed or bound in heaven...The very reason why he is blessed is that he confessed the Son of God. This is the Father's revelation, this the foundation of the Church, this the assurance of her permanence. Hence has she the keys of the kingdom of heaven, hence judgment in heaven and judgment on earth....Thus our one immovable foundation, our one blissful rock of faith, is the confession from Peter's mouth, Thou art the Son of the living God”[St. Hilary, On The Trinity, Book VI.36,37; Book II.23; Book VI.20.]

St. Ambrose of Milan: “Faith, then, is the foundation of the Church, for it was not said of Peter's flesh, but of his faith, that 'the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.' But his confession of faith conquered hades. And this confession did not shut out (even) one heresy, for, since the Church like a good ship is often buffeted by many waves, the foundation of the Church should prevail against all heresies" [St. Ambrose, On the Sacrament of the Incarnation of the Lord, Ch. 5]

St. Ambrose of Milan

St. Ambrose: “Believe, therefore, as Peter believed, that thou also mayest be blessed, and that thou also mayest deserve to hear, 'Because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but My Father Who is in heaven, etc.'... Great is the grace of Christ, Who has imparted almost all His Own names to His disciples. 'I am,' said He, 'the light of the world,' and ..., 'Ye are the light of the world.' 'I am the living bread'; and 'we all are one bread' (1 Cor. x.17)...Christ is the rock, for 'they drank of the same spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ' (1 Cor. x.4); also He denied not to His disciple the grace of this name; that he should be Peter (petrus), because he has from the Rock (petra) the solidity of constancy, the firmness of faith. Make an effort, therefore, to be a rock! Do not seek the rock outside of yourself, but within yourself! Your rock is your deed, your rock is your mind. Upon this rock your house is built. Your rock is your faith, and faith is the foundation of the Church. If you are a rock, you will be in the Church, because the Church is on a rock. If you are in the Church the gates of hell will not prevail against you...He who has conquered the flesh is a foundation of the Church; and if he cannot equal Peter, he can imitate him (Commentary on Luke, VI.98, CSEL 32.4).

St. Bede the Venerable

St. Bede the Venerable: “'Thou art Peter [Petrus ], and upon this Rock [Petra] from which thou didst receive thy name, that is, upon Me Myself, I will build the Church, and if anyone turns aside from the society of this confession, even though it may seem to him that he does great things, he will not belong to the building which is the Church.”[“Homily 1.16, After Epiphany, “Homilies on the Gospels Book I, 163]

St. John Chrysostom

St. John Chrysostom: “'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church'; that is, on the faith of his confession”[St. John, Homily 53 on St. Matthew].

St. John Chrysostom: “He speaks from this time lowly things, on His way to His passion, that He might show His humanity. For He that hath built His Church upon Peter's confession, and has so fortified it, that ten thousand dangers and deaths are not to prevail over it...”[St. John Chrysostom, Homily 82.3 on St. Matthew]

Pope St. Leo the Great comments on the words: “Upon this Rock I will build My Church and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it:

“Upon this firmness, He says, I shall raise My Temple, and it will rise upon the steadfastness of this Faith, and the loftiness of My Church shall mingle with the heavens. The gates of hades shall not master this profession (of faith); nor shall the bonds of death bind it. For these words are the words of life, and as they raise those who confess them up to heaven, so they plunge those that deny them down to hell.” [Sermon 83(2), P. L. 54 (col. 429), in FC, 93:357; Toal, II:267, 268]

[NOTE: Pope St. Leo the Great reads Matthew 16 as confirming that the Orthodox or right-believing Church and Profession of Faith shall never fail, not the orthodoxy of whoever holds the Roman episcopate.]

St. Gregory the Great

St. Gregory the Great: “And therefore, beloved brother,...remember that system of doctrine of which the chief of all the Apostles, the blessed Peter, laid the foundation ...As I have said, the Rock (petra) of the catholic Faith, from which the blessed Apostle Peter [Petrus] derived his name at the Lord's hands, rejects every trace of either heresy (Nestorianism or Monophysitism)”[St. Gregory the Great, Letter CXIX. To Maximus, Bishop of Antioch, by the Hand of Marian the Presbyter, and Olympius the Deacon; Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers Series II Volume XII.]

St. Maximus the Confessor

St. Maximus the Confessor: "Christ the Lord called that Church the Catholic Church which maintains the true and saving confession of the Faith. It was for this confession that He called Peter blessed, and He declared that He would found His Church upon this confession.”[quoted in Pope Anastasius (the Librarian), The Life of Our Holy Father St. Maximus the Confessor (Boston: Holy Transfiguration, 1982), pp. 60-62]

Augustine of Hippo

Saint Augustine of Hippo, considered the greatest of all the pre-Scholastic Fathers by the Roman Catholic Church, yet also refutes the Papal interpretation, saying:

"Christ said to Peter....I will build you upon Myself...Those who wish to be built upon men say, 'I am of Paul, I am of Apollos, I am of Cephas.' However, those who did not wish to be built upon Peter but upon the Rock say, I am of Christ"(Augustine, Retractions, 13th Sermon)

Augustine of Hippo: “In Peter, which means Rocky, we see our attention drawn to the Rock. Now the apostle Paul says about the former people, 'They drank from the spiritual rock that was following them; but the rock was Christ' (1 Cor 10:4). So this disciple is called Rocky from the Rock, like a Christian is from Christ. Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be understood. Christ, you see, built His Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the Rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer" (John Rotelle, O.S.A., Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993), Sermons, Volume III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327).

The doors of Holy Orthodoxy are open wide and an invitation is extended to come and see. Examine her Faith, her worship, her history, her commitment to Christ, her love for God the Father, her communion with the Holy Spirit, her Mystery. She has kept the "faith once delivered unto the saints" free from the distortions of human innovations. Man-made doctrines have never found their way into the Orthodox Church, since she has no necessary association in history with the name of one single father or theologian. Come home to the Faith of Peter and Paul!

October 13, 2010 1:20 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter]

HA, HA, HA... REALLY? WELL, LET US SEE IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT. LET ME CHECK YOUR PROOFS AND I WILL ALSO INVESTIGATE YOUR QUOTES IT THEY WILL BE FAVORABLE TO CONSTANTINOPLE OR MOSCOW.

[The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter, but on Confession of His Faith in Christ as true God and true Man in the One Person of Christ]

HA, HA, HA... THIS DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING. IF THE CHURCH IS FOUNDED ON CONFESSION OF PETER THEN PETER IS STILL THE HIGHEST AUTHORITY OVER THE OTHER APOSTLES. OTHERWISE, THE CHURCH SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT ON CONFESSION OF JAMES OR OF JOHN OR OF ANDREW. OR THE CHURCH CHURCH HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THE WRITINGS OF PAUL. HA, HA, HA.... BUT NO, NO, NO... THE CHURCH IS BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF PETER. WHETHER IT IS THE PERSON OF PETER OR THE CONFESSION OF PETER, IT IS STILL PETER NOT ANYONE ELSE.

SO, YOUR ARGUMENT IS PATHETIC. YOU ARE ONLY MAKING A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF AND THE WEBSITE WHERE YOU GET THIS JUNK.

[St. Hilary of Poitiers]

LET ME SEE IF ST. HILARY WILL FAVOR YOUR OPINION.

[St. Hilary of Poitiers: “And this is the Rock of confession whereon the Church is built...that Christ must be not only named, but believed, the Son of God.This faith is that which is the foundation of the Church; through this faith the gates of hell cannot prevail against her. This is the faith which has the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatsoever this faith shall have loosed or bound on earth shall be loosed or bound in heaven...The very reason why he is blessed is that he confessed the Son of God. This is the Father's revelation, this the foundation of the Church, this the assurance of her permanence. Hence has she the keys of the kingdom of heaven, hence judgment in heaven and judgment on earth....Thus our one immovable foundation, our one blissful rock of faith, is the confession from Peter's mouth, Thou art the Son of the living God”[St. Hilary, On The Trinity, Book VI.36,37; Book II.23; Book VI.20.]

HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. ST. HILARY NEVER STATED THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT FOUNDED ON PETER. WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE TEXT. NO, NO, NO...

ST. HILARY ACTUALLY EXALTS ST. PETER AS THE BEARER OF THE TRUE FAITH. DO YOU KNOW THE IMPLICATION OF YOUR CLAIM "THE CHURCH IS BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF ST. PETER"? IT MEANS THAT ST. PETER IS THE BEARER OF THE TRUE FAITH. THE CATHOLIC FAITH IS ROOTED IN THE CONFESSION OF PETER. YOU ONLY EXALTED PETER ALL THE MORE. HA, HA, HA...

BUT, HOW COME THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF THE FIRST BISHOP OF MOSCOW AND OF CONSTANTINOPLE OR OF ALEXANDRIA? WHY? HA, HA, HA...

TO MAKE YOU HAPPIER HERE IS ANOTHER CHURCH FATHER FROM THE EAST:

“...the chief of the disciples...the Lord accepted him, set him up as the foundation, called him the rock and structure of the church.” Aphraates, De Paenitentibus Homily 7:15 (A.D. 337).

SEE, ST. PETER IS THE FOUNDATION, THE ROCK AND STRUCTURE OF THE CHURCH. HA, HA, HA... YOU SEE, YOU ARE A LIAR. PETER IS THE FOUNDATION, THE STRUCTURE AND HIS CONFESSION IS ALSO FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. HE, HE, HE... BOTH ARE UPHELD BY THE FATHERS.

“The memory of Peter, who is the head of the apostles...he is the firm and most solid rock, on which the savior built his Church.” Gregory of Nyssa, Panegyric on St. Stephen, 3 (ante A.D. 394).

HA, HA, HA... ST. GREGORY OF NYSSA SLAPS YOU FOR YOUR LIES. HA, HA, HA... ST. PETER IS THE HEAD OF THE APOSTLES. IT MEANS THAT HE IS HIGHER THAN THEM AND HE TEACHES THAT THE LORD BUILT THE CHURCH ON PETER. HA, HA, HA...

[St. Ambrose of Milan: “Faith, then, is the foundation of the Church, for it was not said of Peter's flesh, but of his faith, that 'the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.' But his confession of faith conquered hades. And this confession did not shut out (even) one heresy, for, since the Church like a good ship is often buffeted by many waves, the foundation of the Church should prevail against all heresies" [St. Ambrose, On the Sacrament of the Incarnation of the Lord, Ch. 5]]

HA, HA, HA... AGAIN, THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION. HERE, THE FAITH OF PETER IS BEING EXALTED. HA, HA, HA... NOWHERE STATED HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER. O NO, NO, NO...

[St. Ambrose of Milan

HA, HA, HA... IF YOU WANT TO BE BLESSED BELIEVED AS PETER BELIEVED. IMAGINE THAT. IT EXALTS PETER. THE CRITERION FOR BLESSEDNESS IS THE FAITH OF PETER. HA, HA, HA... THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION.

THERE IS NO STATEMENT HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT FOUNDED ON PETER. NADA, NYET, NYET. HA, HA, HA... NOTHING HERE THAT SUPPORTS CONSTANTINOPLE, ALEXANDRIA OR MOSCOW. NOTHING AT ALL.

WELL, ON MY PART HERE ARE SOME MORE:

"Simon, My follower, I have made you the foundation of the Holy Church. I betimes called you Peter (Kepha), because you will support all its buildings. You are the inspector of those who will build on earth a Church for me...I have given you the keys of my kingdom. Behold, have given you authority over all my treasures." Ephraim, Homily 4:1, (A.D. 373).

ST. EPHREM QUOTES THE LORD AS SAYING PETER IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. HA, HA, HA...

“The first of the apostles, the solid rock on which the Church was built.” Epiphanius, In Ancorato, 9:6 (A.D. 374).

ST. EPIPHANIUS MAKES PETER THE 'FIRST' OF THE APOSTLES. BUT YOU FOOLISHLY THINK THAT PETER IS SECOND TO JAMES, AREN'T YOU? HA, HA, HA... AND ST. EPIPHANIUS DECLARES THAT ON PETER THE CHURCH WAS BUILT. HA, HA, HA... POOR YOU. YOU ARE BEING JUNKED BY THE EASTERN FATHERS.

“Peter upon which rock the Lord promised that he would build his church.” Basil, In Isaias, 2:66 (A.D. 375).

SO, THE PROMISED ONE TO WHOM THE CHURCH WAS BUILT IS NO OTHER THAN PETER. HE, HE, HE... POOR YOU. YOU ARE SLAPPED ON THE FACE BY YOUR OWN EASTERN FATHERS. HA, HA, HA....

[St. Bede the Venerable

HA, HA, HA... ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NO STATEMENT HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER. NO, NO, NO... NOTHING AT ALL. ACTUALLY ST. BEDE SIMPLY ADMONISHES THE FAITHFUL TO REMAIN UNDER THE CONFESSION OF PETER. SINCE THE ORTHODOX CHURCHES SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM THE CONFESSION OF PETER THEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH.

THE GREAT ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM REBUKES YOU:

"(Peter) The first of the Apostles, the foundation of the Church, the coryphaeus of the choir of disciples." John Chrysostom, Ad eos qui scandalizati 17(ante A.D. 407).

SEE, ST. PETER IS THE FIRST OF THE APOSTLES AND THE FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. IF I WILL BELIEVE YOU THEN ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM WILL BECOME A LIAR. BUT HE IS NOT THEREFORE IT IS YOU WHO IS THE... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... HA, HA, HA...

[St. John Chrysostom

St. John Chrysostom: “'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church'; that is, on the faith of his confession”[St. John, Homily 53 on St. Matthew].]

AGAIN, THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION. IF THE CHURCH IS BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF PETER THEN THE CONFESSION OF PETER IS THE GREATEST CONFESSION OF ALL. SO, WHY GO TO CONSTANTINOPLE OR MOSCOW... I WILL PREFER THE SEE OF PETER WHERE THE TRUE CONFESSION IS. HE, HE, HE...

NO STATEMENT HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER. HE, HE, HE...

[St. John Chrysostom: “He speaks from this time lowly things, on His way to His passion, that He might show His humanity. For He that hath built His Church upon Peter's confession, and has so fortified it, that ten thousand dangers and deaths are not to prevail over it...”[St. John Chrysostom, Homily 82.3 on St. Matthew]]

IMAGINE, ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM KEEPS ON EXALTING ST. PETER AND HE HARDLY MENTIONS ANDREW OR MARK. HA, HA, HA... ST. PETER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL APOSTLES. HE, HE, HE... AND HERE IS ANOTHER QUOTE FROM ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM:

“Peter, that head of the Apostles, the first in the Church, the friend of Christ, who received revelation not from man but from the Father...this Peter, and when I say Peter, I mean that unbroken Rock, the unshaken foundation, the great Apostle, the first of the disciples, the first called, the first to obey.” John Chrysostom, De Eleemosyna, 3:4 (ante A.D. 407).

HA, HA, HA... PETER IS THE FIRST AND THE HEAD OF THE APOSTLES. HE IS THE UNSHAKEN FOUNDATION. HA, HA, HA... SEE, YOU ARE HIDING THINGS FROM US. BUT YOUR QUOTES ARE SUPPORTIVE OF US. HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR.

[Pope St. Leo the Great comments on the words: “Upon this Rock I will build My Church and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it:

HA, HA, HA... THERE IS NOTHING HERE THAT STATES 'THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER'. NOTHING AT ALL. YOU ARE HALLUCINATING.

O NO, NO, NO... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE ABOVE STATEMENT THAT REJECTS THE ROMAN EPISCOPATE. NOTHING AT ALL. YOU ARE BASING YOUR OPINION ON LIES AND DECEIT. LET ME GIVE YOU PROPER CITATIONS:

“If Paul, the herald of the truth, the trumpet of the Holy Ghost, hastened to the great Peter in order that he might carry from him the desired solution of difficulties to those at Antioch who were in doubt about living in conformity with the law, much more do we, men insignificant and small, hasten to your apostolic see in order to receive from you a cure for the wounds of the churches. For every reason it is fitting for you to hold the first place, inasmuch as your See is adorned with many privileges.” Theodoret of Cyrus, To Pope Leo, Epistle 113 (A.D. 449).

SEE, THEODORET RECOGNIZES THAT POPE LEO AND HIS SEE IS THE FIRST BECAUSE IT IS THE SEE OF PETER. HE ALSO DEBUNKS YOUR CLAIM ABOUT ST. PAUL'S INTENTION IN MEETING ST. PETER.

“We exhort you, honourable brother, to submit yourself in all things to what has been written by the blessed Bishop of Rome, because St. Peter, who lives and presides in his see, gives the true faith to those who seek it. For our part, for the sake of peace and the good of the faith, we cannot judge questions of doctrine without the consent of the Bishop of Rome.” Peter Chrysologus, Epistle 25 of Leo from Peter (A.D. 449).

LOOK, THE BISHOP OF ROME POSSESSES THE AUTHORITY OF PETER. AND ST. PETER CHRYSOLOGUS REFERS TO POPE ST. LEO THE GREAT NOT TO THE PATRIARCH OF CONSTANTINOPLE. HA, HA, HA...

AND FROM POPE ST. LEO THE GREAT HIMSELF:

“Blessed Peter preserving in the strength of the Rock, which he has received, has not abandoned the helm of the Church, which he under took...And so if anything is rightly done and rightly decreed by us, if anything is won from the mercy of God by our daily supplications, it is of his work and merits whose power lives and whose authority prevails in his See...to him whom they know to be not only the patron of this See, but also primate of all bishops. When therefore...believe that he is speaking whose representative we are:..” Pope Leo the Great, Sermon 3:3-4 (A.D. 442).

HA, HA, HA... THE POWER AND AUTHORITY OF PETER PREVAILS IN HIS SEE. AND THE BISHOP OF ROME IS THE PRIMATE OF ALL BISHOPS. HA, HA, HA...

[St. Gregory the Great

HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE VERY DESPERATE. YOU ARE A FOOL. IMAGINE, IN THAT QUOTE ST. GREGORY THE GREAT ACTUALLY REFERS TO ST. PETER AS THE CHIEF OF ALL THE APOSTLES. IT TOTALLY REFUTE YOUR CLAIM THAT PAUL OR JAMES IS EQUAL WITH PETER. HA, HA, HA...

[St. Maximus the Confessor

HA, HA, HA... ST. MAXIMUS TESTIFIED THAT THE LORD CALLED THE CHURCH - THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. SO, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MAINTAINS THE SAVING FAITH. MEANING THE ORTHODOX CHURCH THEN DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE TRUE FAITH BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE OR SEPARATED FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HA, HA, HA... BESIDES, IT IS PETER WHOM THE LORD JESUS CHOSE TO CALL BLESSED. HA, HA, HA... THIS QUOTE IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION NOT AT ALL FAVORING CONSTANTINOPLE AND MOSCOW. O NO, NO, NO...

TO MAKE YOU HAPPY HERE IS THE DECLARATION OF THE COUNCIL OF CHALCEDON:

“Wherefore the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome, through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the thrice blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the rock and foundation of the Catholic Church, and the foundation of the orthodox faith...” Council of Chalcedon, Session III (A.D. 451).

HA, HA, HA... SEE HOW YOU CRUMBLE. OUR POPE IS MOST HOLY AND MOST BLESSED... ARCHBISHOP OF THE GREAT AND ELDER ROME. THEN ST. PETER IS THRICE BLESSED AND ALL-GLORIOUS - ROCK AND FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. HE IS ALSO THE FOUNDATION OF THE ORTHODOX FAITH. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE FAKE ORTHODOX BECAUSE YOU HAVE ABANDONED PETER.

“For the extremities of the earth, and all in every part of it who purely and rightly confess the Lord, look directly towards the most holy Roman Church and its confession and faith, as it were a sun of unfailing light, awaiting from it the bright radiance of our fathers, according to what the six inspired and holy Councils have purely and piously decreed, declaring most expressly the symbol of faith. For from the coming down of the Incarnate Word among us, all the churches in every part of the world have possessed that greatest church alone as their base and foundation, seeing that, according to the promise of Christ Our Savior, the gates of hell do never prevail against it, that it possesses the Keys of right confession and faith in Him, that it opens the true and only religion to such as approach with piety, and shuts up and locks every heretical mouth that speaks injustice against the Most High.” Maximus the Confessor, Opuscula theologica et polemica (A.D. 650).

[Augustine of Hippo

Saint Augustine of Hippo, considered the greatest of all the pre-Scholastic Fathers by the Roman Catholic Church, yet also refutes the Papal interpretation,]

LET ME SEE IF YOUR QUOTES WILL DEFEND YOUR LIES. HE, HE, HE...

[saying:

WHERE IS THE REFUTATION THERE? ST. AUGUSTINE IS SIMPLY TELLING THAT WE SHOULD PUT OUR TRUST ABOVE ALL TO GOD AND NOT TO ANY MAN. IF YOU ARE REALLY HONEST WITH THAT INTERPRETATION THEN YOU WILL ALSO REJECT THE CLAIM OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND MOSCOW. CONSTANTINOPLE IS BUT FOUNDED BY CONSTANTINE. IT WAS BYZANTIUM PREVIOUSLY. BUT ROME WAS NOT FOUNDED BY CONSTANTINE, ROME IS ROME LONG BEFORE CONSTANTINE. IT WAS FOUNDED BY GOD WHO ORDERED ST. PAUL TO GO TO ROME AND INSPIRED ST. PETER TO PREACH AND DIE IN THE CITY.

[Augustine of Hippo: “In Peter, which means Rocky, we see our attention drawn to the Rock. Now the apostle Paul says about the former people, 'They drank from the spiritual rock that was following them; but the rock was Christ' (1 Cor 10:4). So this disciple is called Rocky from the Rock, like a Christian is from Christ. Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be understood. Christ, you see, built His Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the Rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer" (John Rotelle, O.S.A., Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993), Sermons, Volume III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327).]

AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXALTATION OF ST. PETER. THE LORD BUILT THE CHURCH ON CONFESSION OF PETER AND NOT ON CONFESSION OF ANY OTHER. THUS IF ONE IS NOT UNITED WITH THE FAITH OF PETER ONE IS OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. HA, HA, HA...

ENOUGH OF YOUR LIES.

HERE IS OUR QUOTES FROM ST. AUGUSTINE:

“Among these [apostles] Peter alone almost everywhere deserved to represent the whole Church. Because of that representation of the Church, which only he bore, he deserved to hear ‘I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven’” (Sermons 295:2 [A.D. 411]).

“Some things are said which seem to relate especially to the apostle Peter, and yet are not clear in their meaning unless referred to the Church, which he is acknowledged to have represented in a figure on account of the primacy which he bore among the disciples. Such is ‘I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,’ and other similar passages. In the same way, Judas represents those Jews who were Christ’s enemies” (Commentary on Psalm 108 1 [A.D. 415]).

“Who is ignorant that the first of the apostles is the most blessed Peter?” (Commentary on John 56:1 [A.D. 416]).

WHO IS IGNORANT THAT THE FIRST OF THE APOSTLES IS THE MOST BLESSED PETER? HA, HA, HA... I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER JUST LOOK AT THE MIRROR.

[The doors of Holy Orthodoxy are open wide and an invitation is extended to come and see.]

YOUR DOOR IS THE DOOR OF HERESY. THE DOOR OF THE TRUE CHURCH AND TRUE DOCTRINE IS IN THE CONFESSION OF PETER... IN THE SEE OF PETER. THAT IS THE MOST NOBLE SEE - THE GREAT CHURCH OF ROME.

Cyprian of Carthage
“The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.’ . . . On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).

YOU HAVE DESERTED THE CHAIR OF PETER. WE ARE NO FOOLS TO JOIN THE LIKES OF YOU. WE ARE ON THE ROCK ESTABLISHED BY JESUS AND YOU ENTERED THE GATES OF HELL.

[ Examine her Faith, her worship, her history, her commitment to Christ, her love for God the Father, her communion with the Holy Spirit, her Mystery.]

WE FOUND YOU HERETICAL AND ROTTEN TO THE CORE. THERE IS NO UNITY TO SPEAK OF, STERILE IN ADMINISTRATION AND LIGATED IN CONCILIAR AUTHORITY. STAGNANT IN TOTALITY. FOND OF AESTHETICS BUT POOR IN CHARITABLE WORKS.

YOU ARE NOTHING IN COMPARISON WITH THE SEE OF ROME - THE CHAIR OF PETER - THE FIRST OF ALL THE APOSTLES.

[She has kept the "faith once delivered unto the saints" free from the distortions of human innovations.]

ON THE CONTRARY IT IS YOU WHO HAVE DISTORTED IT. THE VILEST OF HERETICS CAME FROM YOUR MIDST. NESTORIUS THE HERESIARCH ONCE SAT AT THE CHAIR OF CONSTANTINOPLE.

[Man-made doctrines have never found their way into the Orthodox Church, since she has no necessary association in history with the name of one single father or theologian.]

THE TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT BASED ON A SINGLE THEOLOGIAN YOUR 7 COUNCILS BECAME UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED BECAUSE THE ROMAN CHURCH APPROVED AND ACCEPTED THEM AND WE ARE GUIDED BY MORE ECUMENICAL COUNCILS AFTERWARD WHILE YOUR TEACHINGS ARE STAGNANT TO WHERE WE LEFT YOU A THOUSAND YEARS AGO. THE SEE OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND MOSCOW ARE MAN-MADE WHILE THE ROMAN CHURCH IS BIBLICAL AND APOSTOLIC IN ORIGIN.

Peter Chrysologus
“We exhort you in every respect, honorable brother, to heed obediently what has been written by THE MOST BLESSED POPE OF THE CITY OF ROME for blessed Peter, who lives and presides in his own see, provides the truth of faith to those who seek it. For we, by reason of our pursuit of peace and faith, cannot try cases on the faith without the consent of the bishop of Rome” (Letters 25:2 [A.D. 449]).

[ Come home to the Faith of Peter and Paul!]

THE BLESSED COUNCIL OF CHALCEDON SHOUTS EXACTLY WHERE THE FAITH OF PETER AND PAUL IS:

Council of Chalcedon
“After the reading of the foregoing epistle [The Tome of Leo], the most reverend bishops cried out: ‘This is the faith of the fathers! This is the faith of the apostles! So we all believe! Thus the orthodox believe! Anathema to him who does not thus believe! Peter has spoken thus through Leo! . . . This is the true faith! Those of us who are orthodox thus believe! This is the faith of the Fathers!’” (Acts of the Council, session 2 [A.D. 451]).

OUR FAITH IS THE FAITH ARISING FROM THE CHAIR OF PETER. YOUR SEE OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND OF MOSCOW ARE BASTARD SEES IN COMPARISON WITH THE SEE OF PETER IN ROME.

WE INVITE YOU TO RETURN TO THE SEE OF PETER BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR YOUR SOUL.

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