SAGOT SA MGA KATANUNGAN HINGGIL SA PAGLUHOD AT PAGHIPO SA MGA SAGRADONG LARAWAN SA ALTAR NG PANGINOON

The Crucifixion of the Lord Jesus

 

mdizon-cool
said...

questions : para mas maliwanag

1. yun bang kaban ng tipan niluhuran?
Yes or no?

2. Yun bang kaban ng tipan nayon pinunasan ng panyo den pinapahid sa muka o sa parte ng katawan na may sakit ?

3.
Sa bagong tipan..pagkatapos ng pumanik ni Cristo sa langi.. may
information ba n nagdrawing sila or nagpaint sa picture ni Cristo den
niluhuran?

pakisagot salamat po..

August 13, 2011 11:16 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS
said... 

 

[questions : para mas maliwanag]

LUMABAS KA KASI SA KADILIMAN PARA MAKITA MO ANG KALIWANAGAN.

[1. yun bang kaban ng tipan niluhuran?
Yes or no?]

YES
NA YES. BAKIT HINDI MO ALAM YAN? NAPAKA-TANGA NAMAN NG PASTOR NINYO.
YAN AN HIRAP KAPAG ANG ALAM LANG MAGTANONG AT HINDI GINAGAMIT ANG UTAK.
ANG PAGPAPATIRAPA NA SIYANG PINAKAMATINDING PAMAMARAAN NG PAGLUHOD AY
IGINAWAD NG BAYAN NG DIOS SA KABAN NG TIPAN SUBALIT ITO AY ISANG URI NG
PAGSAMBA AT PANANALANGIN AT PAGGALANG NA DIRECTA SA DIOS AT HINDI SA
KAHOY NA BINALUTAN NG GINTO:

Joshua 7:6 "At hinapak ni Josue ang
kaniyang mga suot, at nagpatirapa sa lupa sa harap ng kaban ng
Panginoon hanggang sa kinahapunan, siya at ang mga matanda ng Israel; at
sila'y nagsipagbuhos ng alabok sa kanilang ulo."

KITAM, TALAGANG
KATOLIKONG KATOLIKO ANG GINAWA. NAGPATIRAPA SA HARAP NG GAWANG INANYUAN
NA HARI SA KAHOY AT BINALUTAN NG GINTO SUBALIT ANG DIOS ANG KANILANG
KINAUSAP AT GINAWARAN NG PAGSAMBA:

Joshua 7:7-9 At sinabi ni
Josue, Ay, Oh Panginoong Dios, bakit mo pinatawid ang bayang ito sa
Jordan, upang ibigay kami sa kamay ng mga Amorrheo, na ipalipol kami?
nakatigil sana kaming masaya at nakatahan sa dakong yaon ng Jordan! Oh
Panginoon, anong aking sasabihin pagkatapos na ang mga anak ng Israel ay
makatalikod sa harap ng kanilang mga kaaway!

ANG PAGGALANG NA IGINAWAD SA KABAN AY NAKA-DIRECTA SA DIOS. 

[2. Yun bang kaban ng tipan nayon pinunasan ng panyo den pinapahid sa muka o sa parte ng katawan na may sakit ?]

HINDI
KO NA KAILANGANG DEPENSAHAN IYAN DAHIL HINDI NAMIN YAN DOCTRINA. HINDI
UTOS SA AMIN NA GAWIN IYON. WALA KAMING DOCTRINA NA DAPAT PUNASAN NG
PANYO ANG KABAN AT IPAHID SA MGA MAYSAKIT. SUBALIT HINDI RIN NAMIN
IPINAGBAWAL DAHIL HINDI NAMAN IPINAGBAWAL IYON NG DIOS.

KUNG
MASAMA ANG AMING GINAGAWA NASAAN SA BIBLIA NAKASULAT NA MASAMA IYON?
NASAAN SA BIBLIA SINABI NA BAWAL PUNASAN NG PANYO ANG KABAN NG TIPAN AT IPAHID ANG PANYO SA MAYSAKIT? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.

ANG
PAGHIPO SA KABAN O SA MGA BANAK NA GAWANG INANYUAN SA TEMPLO AY HINDI
IPINAGBAWAL. SA HALIP ANG SABI ANG "LAHAT" NG MGA MAKAHIPO NG MGA
PINABANAL NA KAGAMITAN SA SANCTUARIO NG DIOS TULAD NG TABERNACULO AT KABAN
NG PATOTOO AY MAGIGING BANAL:

Exodus 30:25-28 At iyong gagawing
banal na langis na pangpahid, isang pabangong kinatha ng ayon sa katha
ng manggagawa ng pabango: siya ngang magiging banal na langis na
pangpahid. At iyong papahiran niyaon ang tabernakulo ng kapisanan, at
ang kaban ng patotoo, At ang dulang, at ang lahat ng mga kasangkapan
niyaon, at ang kandelero at ang mga kasangkapan niyaon, at ang dambanang
suuban. At ang dambana ng handog na susunugin sangpu ng lahat ng mga
kasangkapan, at ang hugasan at ang tungtungan.

GANYAN ANG AMING
GINAGAWA TUWING CONSECRATION TO GOD OF OUR TEMPLE, THE TABERNACLE, THE
SANCTUARY AND THE ALTAR. WE ANOINT THEM WITH HOLY OIL FOR A HOLY
ANOINTING OF THE TABERNACLES, ALTARS, SANCTUARIES AND THE SACRED IMAGES.
AT AYON SA BIBLIA, MATAPOS NA ANG MGA ITO AY PABANALIN "LAHAT NG
MAKAHIPO" NITO AY MAGIGING MGA BANAL:

Exodus 30:29 [ANG BIBLIA] "At pakabanalin mo upang maging mga kabanalbanalan: lahat ng makahipo sa mga yao'y magiging banal."

KAYA,
HINDI MASAMA NA ITO AY PUNASAN AT DALHIN SA MGA MAYSAKIT UPANG ANG MGA
MAYSAKIT AY MAKASALO RIN SA DULOT NA KABANALAN NG MGA BAGAY NA PINABANAL
NG DIOS MULA SA PAGKAKAHIPO O PAGKAKADAITI SA MGA BANAL NA BAGAY NG
TEMPLO, SANCTUARIO O ALTAR.

YUN NGANG MGA MANOLISTA ANG KAPAL NG
MUKHA. ANG BANGKAY NI FELIX AT NI ERANYO AY INILIBING SA LOOB NG
KANILANG TABERNACULO NA HINDI NAMAN NAGING BANAL DAHIL HINDI PINAHIRAN
NG BANAL NA LANGIS.

[3. Sa bagong tipan..pagkatapos ng pumanik ni Cristo sa langi.. may
information ba n nagdrawing sila or nagpaint sa picture ni Cristo den
niluhuran?]

HINDI NA KAILANGAN NG INFORMATION. DAHIL ALAM NG
LAHAT NA HINDI MASAMANG ISA-LARAWAN ANG MGA MABUBUTING TAONG NABUHAY SA DAIGDIG
TULAD NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO. KUNG HINDI MASAMA NA GUMAWA NG ESTATWA
NI RIZAL O NI GEORGE WASHINGTON O NI ABRAHAM LINCOLN HINDI RIN MASAMA NA
GUMAWA NG LARAWAN NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO NA SIYANG HARI NG MGA HARI AT PANGINOON NG MGA PANGINOON. BAKIT MASAMA BA? SAAN SA
BIBLIA? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE. WAG MONG GAGAMITIN ANG PAGBABAWAL SA
DIOS DIOSAN DAHIL HINDI DIOS-DIOSAN SI CRISTO.

ANG TANONG KO SA
YO: NUN BANG SI CRISTO AY NASA LUPA PA BAWAL BANG IPINTA ANG KANYANG
LARAWAN? NUN BANG UMAKYAT NA SIYA SA LANGIT BAWAL NA BA O PWEDE PA RIN?
KAILAN NAGING BAWAL GUMAWA NG LARAWAN NG PANGINOONG JESU-CRISTO?

SA LUMANG TIPAN PA LANG AY INIHULA NA ANG PAGBANGON NA TUMITINGIN SA WANGIS NG PANGINOON:

Psalm 17:15 Tungkol sa akin, aking mamasdan ang iyong mukha sa katuwiran: ako'y masisiyahan pagka bumangon sa iyong wangis.

ANG
SPIRITUAL MEANING NG TALATANG ITO AY TUMUTUKOY SA KALINISAN NG KALULUWA
NG TAO NA NILIKHA SA WANGIS NG DIOS. SUBALIT KUNG ITO AY UUNAWAIN SA
TAHASANG KAHULUGAN ITO AY TUMUTUKOY SA ISANG TAONG TUMITINGIN SA WANGIS O
LARAWAN NG PANGINOON TUWING SIYA AY GUMIGISING. AT ITO AY NAGKAROON NG
KATUPARAN SA ATING PANGINOONG JESU CRISTO NA NAKITA, NATADAMA, NAHAWAKAN
AT NASILAYAN NG MGA APOSTOLES AT NG MGA TAO [cf. 1 John 1:1-3]. AT
DAHIL DITO AY MAY LARAWAN:

Galatians 3:1 [New Living Translation]
"Oh, foolish Galatians! What magician has cast an evil spell on you?
For you used to see the meaning of Jesus Christ's death as clearly as
though I had shown you a signboard with a picture of Christ dying on the
cross."

IN THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE: "...Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openly and graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified."

THE
CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS CAN BE PROTRAYED PUBLICLY AND OPENLY IN A GRAPHIC
PORTRAYAL. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE PORTRAYED IT IN MOVIES [Jesus
of Nazareth of Franco Zefferelli and The Passion of Christ of Mel
Gibson], ALSO IN STAGE AND THEATERS AND IN ARTS.

ANG LARAWANG NG
PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO AY PWEDENG LUHURAN O PAGPATIRAPAAN. KUNG ANG KABAN
NA LARAWAN LAMANG NG DALAWANG KERUBIN E PWEDENG BIGYAN NG GANOONG
PAGGALANG MAS LALO NA ANG LARAWAN NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO.

[pakisagot salamat po..]

ITO ANG AKING SAGOT. 

August 14, 2011 8:46 PM

MASAMA BANG BALUTIN ANG GINTO ANG MGA SAGRADONG LARAWAN PARA SA TEMPLO, SANCTUARY AT ALTAR NG DIOS?

The Ark of the Covenant

 

Anonymous
said...

Fr. abe pwd po magtnong
fr. santo collector po kasi ako may
nakapagsbi po sa akin na imbis na magipon ako para sa mga imahen ko eh
gamitin ko n lng daw sa tamang pamamaraan at ipamahagi sa kapwa... anu
po masasabi niyo diyan?

eto pa po fr : ang sabi po ng mga prots
bakit daw tayo mga katoliko ang laki laki daw ng pagpapahalaga natin sa
mga imahen tulad n lamang ng binibihsan natin ito pinagkakagasutsan
binibili kahit mamahalin,tska pinuputungan pa ng koronang ginto at
nilalagyan pa ng mga alahas at pinuprusisyon pa.
sabi nila wla daw
sa Bibliya ito kaya daw tlga po na sumasmaba tayo sa mga rebulto kasi si
imahen daw naten tinutoon ang atensyon naten tpos po kahit po milyon
pagkakagastusan natin para lang mapaganda ang mga rebulto
pero para
sa akin ndi ko naman po sinasmba un mga rebulto ko s bhay (collection)
pero sabi po ng prots bawal daw ako magdsal sa harap ng mga imahe kasi
pagsmba daw po iyon.Fr panu ko po masasagot ito sa mga anti-catholic na
tumutuligsa?

August 13, 2011 8:58 AM

 

 

The Ark of the Covenant led by the People of God in a Procession to the Sanctuary

 

 

 

Fr. Abe, CRS
said... 

 

[Fr. abe pwd po magtnong]

SURE. PASENSIYA KA NA I ALREADY RECEIVED THIS QUESTION FEW DAYS BEFORE KASO MY TIME WAS OCCUPIED BY THE MANOLISTAS. HE HE HE...

[fr.
santo collector po kasi ako may nakapagsbi po sa akin na imbis na
magipon ako para sa mga imahen ko eh gamitin ko n lng daw sa tamang
pamamaraan at ipamahagi sa kapwa... anu po masasabi niyo diyan?]

PARA
SILANG SI JUDAS. KUNWARI CONCERN ABOUT THE POOR PERO ANG TUTUO GUSTO KA
NILANG MAG BORN AGAIN PARA MAHUTHOT NILA ANG IYONG IKAPU. MGA JUDAS ANG
MGA BORN AGAIN NA IYAN.

AS A CATHOLIC PRIEST I ALSO ADVICE YOU
NOT TO FORGET SHARING YOUR BLESSINGS TO THE POOR BUT THERE IS NOTHING
WRONG WITH COLLECTING SACRED IMAGES. YUNG IBA THEY ARE COLLECTING
ORCHIDS, SPECIAL DOGS AND PUPPIES OR CATS, OR HORSES OR EXPENSIVE
CLOTHES OR JEWELRIES. DO THINGS WITH MODERATION AND DO NOT EXAGGERATE
THINGS IN COLLECTING. MAKE IT SURE NA YOU ARE NOT DEPRIVING YOUR FAMILY
OF FOOD AND NECESSITIES. 

[eto pa po fr : ang sabi po ng mga prots bakit daw tayo mga katoliko ang
laki laki daw ng pagpapahalaga natin sa mga imahen tulad n lamang ng
binibihsan natin ito pinagkakagasutsan binibili kahit mamahalin,tska
pinuputungan pa ng koronang ginto at nilalagyan pa ng mga alahas at
pinuprusisyon pa.]

YAN NAMAN ANG UTOS NG DIOS. NA GAMITAN NG
GINTO ANG MGA LARAWAN SA KANYANG SANCTUARIO AT ALTAR HANGGANG SA DAKONG
KABANALBANALAN NG TEMPLO AT MEETING TENT:

Exodus 25:17-22 At
gagawa ka ng isang luklukan ng awa, na taganas na ginto: na may dalawang
siko't kalahati ang haba niyaon, at may isang siko't kalahati ang
luwang niyaon. At gagawa ka ng dalawang querubing ginto; na yari sa
pamukpok iyong gagawin, sa dalawang dulo ng luklukan ng awa. At gawin mo
ang isang querubin sa isang dulo, at ang isang querubin sa kabilang
dulo: kaputol ng luklukan ng awa, gagawin mo ang mga querubin sa
dalawang dulo niyaon. At ibubuka ng mga querubin ang kanilang pakpak na
paitaas, na nilililiman ang luklukan ng awa, ng kanilang mga pakpak, na
ang kanilang mukha ay nagkakaharap, sa dakong luklukan ng awa ihaharap
ang mga mukha ng mga querubin. At iyong ilalagay ang luklukan ng awa sa
ibabaw ng kaban; at sa loob ng kaban, ay iyong ilalagay ang mga
kinalalagdaan ng patotoo, na aking ibibigay sa iyo. At diya'y
makikipagkita ako sa iyo, at makikipanayam sa iyo mula sa ibabaw ng
luklukan ng awa, sa gitna ng dalawang querubin na nangasa ibabaw ng
kaban ng patotoo, tungkol sa lahat ng mga bagay na ibibigay ko sa iyong
utos sa mga anak ni Israel.

ANG MISMONG ARK OF THE COVENANT NG DIOS AY MAY MGA ESTATWANG GINTO. AT DIOS MISMO ANG NAGPAGAWA. ITO PA:

1
Hari 6:23 [Mabuting Balita Biblia] "Sa loob ng Dakong Kabanalbanalan,
nagpalagay siya ng dalawang kerubin, IMAHENG NILILOK SA KAHOY na
Olibo...

1 Hari 6:28 "Balot din ng GINTONG LANTAY ang dalawang kerubin."

ITO PA:

1
Hari 6:29 "Ang BUONG DINGDING NG TEMPLO, maging sa Dakong
Kabanal-banalan, maging sa Dakong Banal ay may UKIT NA MGA KERUBIN,
PUNONG PALMA AT MGA BULAKLAK. Ang sahig ng templo buhat sa dakong
kabanal-banalan hanggang sa Dakong Banal ay may latag na GINTONG
LANTAY."

NGAYON NILA SABIHIN SA ATIN NA BAWAL ANG MGA LARAWANG
BINALOT NG GINTO O INUKIT O NILILOK. MGA SINUNGALING ANG MGA BORN AGAIN
NA IYAN. 

ITO NAMAN ANG TUNGKOL SA PROCESSIONS:

Psalm 68:24-27 [English
Standard Version] Your procession is seen, O God, the procession of my
God, my King, into the sanctuary-- the singers in front, the musicians
last, between them virgins playing tambourines: "Bless God in the great
congregation, the LORD, O you who are of Israel's fountain!" There is
Benjamin, the least of them, in the lead, the princes of Judah in their
throng, the princes of Zebulun, the princes of Naphtali.

SEE,
MAY PROSISYON ANG DIOS NA NAGTATAPOS SA SANCTUARY OF THE TEMPLE. MAY MGA
MANUNUGTOG AT ANG MGA TAO AY MASAYA KASAMA ANG KANILANG MGA LIDER
HABANG NASA PROCESSIONS.

ANO ANG PRINOSISYON NA IYAN? ANG ARK OF THE COVENANT! READ THIS:

1
Kings 8:1-6 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the
heads of the tribes, the leaders of the fathers' houses of the people of
Israel, before King Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the
covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion. And all
the men of Israel assembled to King Solomon at the feast in the month
Ethanim, which is the seventh month. And all the elders of Israel came,
and the priests took up the ark. And they brought up the ark of the
LORD, the tent of meeting, and all the holy vessels that were in the
tent; the priests and the Levites brought them up. And King Solomon and
all the congregation of Israel, who had assembled before him, were with
him before the ark, sacrificing so many sheep and oxen that they could
not be counted or numbered. Then the priests brought the ark of the
covenant of the LORD to its place in the inner sanctuary of the house,
in the Most Holy Place, underneath the wings of the cherubim.

IYAN
AY MALINAW NA PROCESSION TO THE HOUSE OF GOD AS DECLARED IN NEW
INTERNATIONAL VERSION AND ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION AS WELL AS NEW
REVISED STANDARD BIBLE:

Psalm 42:4 "These things I remember, as I
pour out my soul: how I would go with the throng and lead them in
procession to the house of God with glad shouts and songs of praise, a
multitude keeping festival."

ANG PROCESSION OF GOD AY ISASAGAWA
BILANG KAPISTAHAN O FESTIVAL. MASAYA AT MAY TUGTUGAN AT AWITAN. THEN ANG
ENDING SA HOUSE OF GOD OR TEMPLE. THEN ANG DINADALA AY ANG ARK OF THE
COVENANT NA GAWANG INANYUAN NA YARI SA KAHOY NA BINALOT NG GINTO.

BAKIT HINDI NILA ALAM YAN? DAHIL TINATAGO NG MGA PASTOR PARA MAKAPANLOKO SILA NG MGA TAO.

[sabi nila wla daw sa Bibliya ito kaya daw tlga po na sumasmaba tayo sa mga rebulto]

TANGA LANG SILA AT NAGBUBULAG BULAGAN. HINDI SINUSURI NG MABUTI ANG BIBLIA.


[kasi si imahen daw naten tinutoon ang atensyon naten tpos po kahit po
milyon pagkakagastusan natin para lang mapaganda ang mga rebulto]

TALAGANG
ANG DIOS NAMAN ANG NAG-UTOS NA PAGANDAHIN AT IBIGAY ANG THE BEST PARA
SA TEMPLO NIYA AT PARA SA MGA GAWANG INANYUAN SA SANCTUARIO AT SA MGA
ALTAR. ANG HIRAP SA MGA BORN AGAIN MAS DIOS PA SILA KESA SA DIOS.
NAGMAMAGALING KAYA NGA DEMONIO ANG URI NG PAG-IISIP NILA, HINDI MAKA
DIOS AT ANTI-BIBLE.

[pero para sa akin ndi ko naman po sinasmba un mga rebulto ko s bhay (collection)]

SIEMPRE.
TALAGANG HINDI NATIN SINASAMBA ANG MGA IYON. ANG MGA BORN AGAIN
NAKAHARAP SA PASTOR NILA PAG SUMASAMBA KAYA ANG PASTOR NILA ANG
DEMONIONG DIOS-DIOSAN NILA.

[pero sabi po ng prots bawal daw ako magdsal sa harap ng mga imahe kasi pagsmba daw po iyon.]

BALIW
IYON AT SINUNGALING. DAHIL ANG MGA TAO SUMASAMBA SA TEMPLO AT DUON
NAGDADASAL MAGING SI JESUS AT ANG MGA APOSTOLES. ANG TEMPLO NG DIOS AY
PUNO NG MGA LARAWAN MAGING SA DAKONG KABANAL BANALAN O SA MGA DINGDING
NITO.

[Fr panu ko po masasagot ito sa mga anti-catholic na tumutuligsa?]

IYAN ANG IPANSAGOT MO. SABIHIN MO SABI KO MGA KAMPON SILA NG DEMONIO AT MGA MANGMANG SA BIBLIA. 

August 13, 2011 11:27 AM

SAGOT SA PANINIRA NG MGA SAKSI NI BAHO - JEHOVAH WITNESSES Part 1

The Ark of the Covenant - Carved Images commanded by God inside the Holy of Holies of the Temple

 

 

Anonymous
said...

Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine, John Henry Newman, a cardinal by Pope Leo III in 1879, 1878, p351-353)

Sabi ng Romano Katolikong cardinal John Henry Newman.....
"ang
mga bagay na gaya ng agua bendita, kasuutan ng mga pari, at mga imahen
ay “pawang nanggaling sa mga pagano, at pinabanal nang angkinin ng
Iglesya.”

Hindi galing kay Jesus ang Paggamit ng Imahe kundi sa
mga PAGANo.....HINDI ginaya ni Jesus at ng mga Apostol ang ginagawa ng
mga PAGANO kayo lang paganong katoliko from JW

June 23, 2011 1:39 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS
said... 

 

[Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine, John Henry Newman, a cardinal by Pope Leo III in 1879, 1878, p351-353)

Sabi ng Romano Katolikong cardinal John Henry Newman.....
"ang
mga bagay na gaya ng agua bendita, kasuutan ng mga pari, at mga imahen
ay “pawang nanggaling sa mga pagano, at pinabanal nang angkinin ng
Iglesya.”]

MAYROON AKONG PERSONAL NA COPY NG AKLAT NA IYAN. AT
IYAN AY FOR SALE SA TOTUS BOOKSTORE SA GREENHILLS AT PWEDENG IORDER SA
BOOKSTORE NA ITO OR THROUGH INTERNET. WALANG SINASABING GANYAN SA AKLAT
NA IYAN. DAHIL DEVELOPMENT OF DOGMA ANG TOPIC DUON. HINDI ANG MGA BAGAY
NA IYAN. LOOK AT THE PHOTOS HERE:

TUNGKOL SA AGUA BENDITA. IYAN AY SPANISH NG HOLY WATER.
KUNG HINDI BOBO SA BIBLIA ANG NAGBIGAY SA YO NIYAN E ALAM NIYANG MAY
HOLY WATER SA BIBLIA, LETRA POR LETRA AT HINDI IYON GALING SA MGA PAGANO
DAHIL HINDI PAGANO ANG DIOS AMA AT SI MOISES. ITO BASAHIN MO:

Numbers 5:17 "And the PRIEST shall take HOLY WATER in an earthen vessel..."

Thus,
in our Churches we usually keep the Holy Water for Baptism and Blessing
of People in a large Earthen Vessel ["Banga" in Filipino] or for the
richer places even in Bronze, Silver or Golden container.

See, WORD FOR WORD, DIRECTLY, CATEGORICALLY... THERE IS HOLY WATER IN THE BIBLE. 

Tungkol naman sa mga Vestments of Priests:

Ex 28:1 And take thou
unto thee Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him, from among the
children of Israel, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office,
even Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, Eleazar and Ithamar, Aaron's sons.

Ex 28:2 And thou shalt make HOLY GARMENTS for Aaron thy brother for glory and for beauty.

Ex
28:3 And thou shalt speak unto all that are wise hearted, whom I have
filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they may make Aaron's garments to
consecrate him, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.

AYAN, ANG MGA PARI NA HINIRANG NG DIOS PARA MAGLINGKOD SA TEMPLO AY DAPAT PAGAWAAN NG HOLY GARMENTS WITH GLORY AND BEAUTY.

Ex
28:4 And these are the garments which they shall make; a breastplate,
and an ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle:
and they shall make holy garments for Aaron thy brother, and his sons,
that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.

AYAN ANG
DAMIT DAPAT NG PARI. MAY BREASTPLACE, MAY EPHOD AT ROBE. HE HE HE...
HINDI AMERCANA AT BARONG. SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA AMERCANA AT BARONG
ANG DAPAT NA DAMIT NG PASTOR O MINISTRO?

ROBE ANG SABI. MAY
TAKIP PA NA BREASTPLATE. KAYA NAMAN MAY DESIGN SA DIBDIB ANG MGA
VESTMENTS NG PARI. AT MAY TALI SA BEWANG... MAY GIRDLE. E GANYANG GANYAN
ANG DAMIT NG PARI E. MERONG PAMBIGKIS. HE HE HE... HINDI BARONG O
BUSINESS SUIT. HA HA HA...

Ex 28:5 And they shall take gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen.

IYAN
ANG KULAY NG DAMIT NAMIN. GOLD KAPAG PASKO AT EASTER AT FIESTA, BLUE
KAPAG MARIAN FEASTS, SCARLET KAPAG FEAST OF MARTYRS SAINTS AT PENTECOSTS
AND GOOD FRIDAY. PURPLE KAPAG ADVENT AT LENT. THEN ANG TELANG GAMIT NG
AMING SUTANA AY FINE LINE. KAYA NGA PUTING PUTI. HE HE HE...

Ex 28:6 And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.

DAPAT
NGA E MAGANDA ANG PAGKAKA SULSI... SA IBANG TRANSLATION NG CUNNING WORK
AY EMBROIDERED. KAYA NAMAN MAY MGA ARTISTIC DESIGNS ANG AMING MGA
KASUOTAN.

Ex 28:7 It shall have the two shoulderpieces thereof joined at the two edges thereof; and so it shall be joined together.

ITO
ANG NAKAPATONG SA AMING BALIKAT NA PARANG DALAWANG PIRASO NG TELA NA
MAGKAHIWALAY SUBALIT MAGKADUGTONG SA DULO NA NAKALAGAY SA LIKORAN NAMIN.
HE HE HE...

Ex 28:8 And the curious girdle of the ephod, which
is upon it, shall be of the same, according to the work thereof; even
of gold, of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.

HE
HE HE... VERY CATHOLIC ANG PINAGAWA DI BA? HA HA HA... AGAIN SAAN
MABABASA SA BIBLIA ANG BARONG AT AMERICAN NG MGA PASTOR O MINISTRO? HA
HA HA... YAN ANG MGA GALING SA PAGANO. HA HA HA... NAKU MGA TANGA TALAGA
SILA SA BIBLIA.

.

[Hindi galing kay Jesus ang Paggamit ng Imahe kundi sa mga
PAGANo.....HINDI ginaya ni Jesus at ng mga Apostol ang ginagawa ng mga
PAGANO kayo lang paganong katoliko from JW]

AH... SAKSI NI BAHO PALA ANG NANINIRA NA IYAN. HE HE HE....

HA HA HA... ANG PAGGAWA NG MGA IMAHE AY GALING DIN SA DIOS AMA. HE HE HE

Ex
26:1 "Make the interior of the sacred Tent, the Tent of my presence,
out of ten pieces of fine linen woven with blue, purple, and red wool.
Embroider them with figures of winged creatures.

AYAN. ANG
KURTINA SA TEMPLO AY DAPAT MAY EMBROIDERED NA LARAWAN NG WINGED
CREATURES. SA MABUTING BALITA BIBLIA: "LARAWAN NG KERUBIN" HE HE HE...
IMAHEN IYAN NG ISANG CREATURE. HE HE HE... HINDI NGA LANG ISA E KUNDI
'WITH FIGURES OF WINGED CREATURES'... MADAMI YON. PLURAL. HE HE HE...

ITO PA:

WE DON'T HAVE IDOLS. WE ONLY HAVE SACRED IMAGES LIKE THOSE PRESENT IN THE MEETING TENT AND THE TEMPLE OF GOD:

Exodus
25:18-21 And thou shalt make two cherubim of gold; of beaten work shalt
thou make them, at the two ends of the mercy–seat. And make one cherub
at the one end, and one cherub at the other end: of one piece with the
mercy–seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof. And the
cherubim shall spread out their wings on high, covering the mercy–seat
with their wings, with their faces one to another; toward the mercy–seat
shall the faces of the cherubim be. And thou shalt put the mercy–seat
above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I
shall give thee.

SEE, THE LORD COMMANDED MOSES TO MAKE TWO GRAVEN
IMAGES... TWO GOLDEN STATUES OF CHERUBIMS WHO ARE CREATURES OF HEAVEN.
THEN HE ORDERED THEM TO BE PUT ON THE SEAT OF MERCY. AND GOD WILL MEET
MOSES AND THE AARON IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE GRAVEN IMAGES:

Exodus
25:22 "And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee
from above the mercy–seat, from between the two cherubim which are upon
the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in
commandment unto the children of Israel."

YOU SEE, NOT ALL GRAVEN
IMAGES ARE ABOMINABLE TO THE LORD. THESE STATUES ARE EVEN USED BY GOD
AS INSTRUMENTS FOR HIS PRESENCE BEFORE HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE. 

HERE ARE MORE PASSAGES SHOWING GOD'S COMMAND TO PUT IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE AND IN THE MEETING TENT:

The
Bible does not forbid image-making absolutely because God Himself
commanded His people to make Images for His Holy Temple, Altar &
Sanctuaries.

Exodus 25:18-19 God commanded Moses to make statues
of the Cherubims (Angels). [37:1-9/1 Kings 6:23-28/2 Chronicles
3:10-13/5:8].

Exodus 25:33-36 Almond Flowers and Fruits in the Candelabra of the Holy Tent. [37:17-21]

Exodus 26:1,31 Curtains of the Tabernacle are embroidered with Images of Cherubims. [36:8,35]

Exodus
28:33-34 Images of Pomegranate Fruits (Granada) & Bells in the
‘holy garment’ of priests [v.2] to be used in serving at the ‘holy
place’ [v. 35]. [37:17-22/39:24-27]

Exodus 39:14 Engraved image of a Signet

Exodus 39: 15 Image of Chains in breastplate of priests

1 Kings 6:18 Cedar of the interior of the Temple was carved with Knops and Open Flowers.

1 Kings 6:29 The Temple Walls were carved with figures of Cherubims, Palm Trees & Open Flowers.

1 Kings 6:32 The two doors of the Temple were carved with Cherubims, Palm Trees & Open Flowers [v.35]

1
Kings 7:18-20,22 The capitals on top of the columns of the Temple were
designed with Pomegranates and Lily flowers. Also of Knops [v. 24].

1 Kings 7:25 Twelve Statues of Bulls [v. 44]. [2 Chronicles 4:3-4].

1 Kings 7:26 The water basin is formed like a Cup with Flowers of Lilies. [2 Chron 4:5].

1 Kings 7:29 Images of Lions, Oxens & Cherubims on bases.

1 Kings 7:30 The bases has Four Brazen Wheels [v. 32].

1 Kings 7:42 Pomegranates fruits

1 Kings 7:49 Flowers, lamps and tongs of gold [2 Chronincles 4:21]

2 Chronicles 3:5 The ceiling of the Temple was adored with Images of Fir Tree, Palm Trees & Chains.

2 Chronicles 3:7 The Temple doors are adorned with the engraved Cherubims.

2 Chronicles 3:14 Temple veils are adorned with Cherubims.

2 Chronicles 3:16 The top of the Temple pillars are designed with Chains & a hundred Pomegranates (Granada).

2 Chronicles 4:13 Four hundred Pomegranates (Granada) forming Two Wreaths to cover the capitals upon pillars.

Ezekiel
41:18-20 Ezekiel describes graven images in the temple consisting of
carved likenesses of Cherubims with faces of Lions and Men. [These are
similar to the images of the angels and saints in many Catholic
churches.] Also images of Palm Trees.

GOD ORDERED MOSES AND SOLOMON TO PUT GRAVEN IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE, ALTARS, SANCTUARIES AND HOLY OF HOLIES.

IDOLS
ARE ABOMINABLE WITH GOD, WITH THE LORD JESUS AND WITH US CATHOLICS. BUT
SACRED IMAGES AS SHOWN BY THE PASSAGES ABOVE ARE WILLED BY GOD. THEN
JESUS ACCEPTED THEM WHEN HE WAS WORSHIPING THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM
WHICH WAS FULL OF THESE IMAGES AND SO WE HAVE IMAGES IN OUR HOUSES OF
WORSHIP. AND LIKE KING JOSIAH WE HAVE MONUMENTS OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF
GOD. 

June 24, 2011 9:39 PM

ANG TEMPLO BA NG DIOS AY KATULAD NG SAMBAHAN NG MGA CATOLICO O NG MGA BORN-AGAIN?

The Sacred Image of the Lord Jesus

Anonymous said...

Para sa akin hindi naman dapat sumamba, ni luhuran o gumawa ng emahe ni Cristo o kaya ng Diyos Ama... Hindi naman natin yun kailangan eh. Ginawa lang mangmang ang mga tao para maniwala ang tao na through those images, we can talk to God. For Catholics, it's like a medium of their faith.

Psalm 115
4(F) Their idols are silver and gold,
(G) the work of human hands.
5They have mouths,(H) but do not speak;
eyes, but do not see.
6They have ears, but do not hear;
noses, but do not smell.
7They have hands, but do not feel;
feet, but do not walk;
and they do not make a sound in their throat.
8(I) Those who make them become like them;
so do all who trust in them.

Tingnan din natin yung description ng bible sa temple

2 Chronicles 3:3-7-10

3 The foundation Solomon laid for building the temple of God was sixty cubits long and twenty cubits wide [b] (using the cubit of the old standard).

4 The portico at the front of the temple was twenty cubits [c] long across the width of the building and twenty cubits [d] high.
He overlaid the inside with pure gold.

5 He paneled the main hall with pine and covered it with fine gold and decorated it with palm tree and chain designs.

6 He adorned the temple with precious stones. And the gold he used was gold of Parvaim.

7 He overlaid the ceiling beams, doorframes, walls and doors of the temple with gold, and he carved cherubim on the walls.

8 He built the Most Holy Place, its length corresponding to the width of the temple—twenty cubits long and twenty cubits wide. He overlaid the inside with six hundred talents [e] of fine gold. 9 The gold nails weighed fifty shekels. [f] He also overlaid the upper parts with gold.

10 In the Most Holy Place he made a pair of sculptured cherubim and overlaid them with gold.

1 Kings 6:29 (New International Version)

29 On the walls all around the temple, in both the inner and outer rooms, he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers.

Ezekiel 41:17 (New International Version)

17 In the space above the outside of the entrance to the inner sanctuary and on the walls at regular intervals all around the inner and outer sanctuary

18 were carved cherubim and palm trees. Palm trees alternated with cherubim. Each cherub had two faces:

19 the face of a man toward the palm tree on one side and the face of a lion toward the palm tree on the other. They were carved all around the whole temple.

* SAAN MO MAKIKITA DITO SA VERSE NA ITO O KAYA SA BIBLE NA GUMAWA SILA NG REPLICA/REBULTO NI KRISTO O KAYA NG DIYOS AMA? WALA NAMAN DIBA?

ISANG MALAKIING KATANGAHAN NG KATOLIKO NA GAMITIN ITONG VERSE NA TO PARA GUMAWA NG IMAHEN NG DIYOS. SINO NGAYON ANG MANGMANG? SINO ANG DINYODYOS NILA?

SINO BA ANG MGA MASA IMAHE NYO? YUN BA SI KRISTO? EH IBA IBA NGA ANG MUKHA EH. LALAGYAN MO LANG BA NG BALBAS ANG ISANG PICTURE, SI KRISTO NA YUN? KAHIT PALA PICTURE KO LAGYAN LANG NG BIGOTE AT BALBAS PWEDE NG ILAGAY SA ALTAR NIYO EH.

MAHIRAP BANG INTINDIHIN ANG VERSE NA TO?
Ang Diyos ay espiritu kaya dapat siyang sambahin sa espiritu at sa katotohanan."
Juan 4:24

December 2, 2010 5:04 AM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[Para sa akin]

BAKIT DIOS KA BA NA ANG GUSTO MO ANG DAPAT NAMING SUNDIN?

[hindi naman dapat sumamba, ni luhuran o gumawa ng emahe ni Cristo o kaya ng Diyos Ama...]

TALAGANG HINDI NAMIN SINASAMBA ANG MGA LARAWAN. KAYO LANG NAMAN ANG BALIW NA NAGSASABING SINASAMBA NAMIN ANG MGA IYON.

MALI KA DYAN SA PAGLUHOD DAHIL ANG BANAL NA LARAWAN TULAD NG ARK OF THE COVENANT AY NILULUHURAN. MARAMING BAGAY O TAO ANG NILULUHURAN SA BIBLIA. ANG PAGLUHOD AY HINDI EXCLUSIVO SA DIOS LAMANG.

Joshua 7:6 [KJV] "And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide..."

KUNG ANG LINGKOD NG DIOS NA SI JOSHUA AY NAGPATIRAPA SA HARAP NG ARK OF THE COVENANT NA MAY LARAWAN O DALAWANG ESTATWA NG KERUBIN, SINO KA PARA SABIHAN KAMI NA HINDI PWEDENG LUMUHOD SA MGA BANAL NA LARAWAN?

ANG AMING NILULUHURAN AY HINDI ANG LARAWAN KUNDI ANG DIOS TULAD NI JOSHUA. NAKAHARAP SIYA SA LARAWAN SUBALIT ANG DIOS ANG KANYANG SINASAMBA. ANG MGA BANAL NA TAO SA BIBLIA AY LUMULUHOD SA ALTAR UPANG SAMBAHIN ANG DIOS KAHIT ANG ALTAR NG TEMPLO AT ANG BUONG TEMPLO MISMO AY MARAMING MGA GAWANG INANYUAN NA DIOS MISMO ANG NAG-UTOS GAWIN:

1 Kings 8:54 [KJV] "And it was so, that when Solomon had made an end of praying all this prayer and supplication unto the LORD, he arose from before the altar of the LORD, from kneeling on his knees with his hands spread up to heaven."

AYAN. SI SOLOMON AY SUMAMBA SA DIOS NA TULAD NG MGA CATOLICO. LUMULUHOD SA HARAP NG ALTAR SA LOOB NG TEMPLO. HINDI YUNG ALTAR O ANG MGA ESTATWA ANG SINAMBA NIYA KUNDI ANG PANGINOONG DIOS.

ANG TANONG, ANG MGA BORN AGAIN BA LUMULUHOD KAPAG SUMASAMBA? HINDI. WALA KAYONG SINASAMBA. DEMONIO ANG SINASAMBA NINYO. YUNG PASTOR NA NASA HARAPAN NINYO ANG INYONG DINO-DIOS.

WALANG SINABI SA BIBLIA NA HINDI PWEDENG GUMAWA NG LARAWAN NI CRISTO? BAKIT KAYO MAY LARAWAN NI EDDIE VILLANUEVA? GAYON DIN NI ALMEDA? AT NANG INYONG MGA PASTOR? BAKIT KAYO NAGPAPAPICTURE? MGA DEMONIO PALA KAYO E. GUMAGAWA KAYO NG LARAWAN N'YO TAPOS BAWAL ANG LARAWAN NI CRISTO.

HINDI IPINAGBAWAL ANG PAGGAWA NG LARAWAN NI CRISTO. ANG IPINAGBAWAL AY ANG PAGGAWA NG LARAWAN NG DIOS DIOSAN. SI CRISTO AY DIOS NA NAGKATAWANG-TAO... HINDI DIOS-DIOSAN.

[Hindi naman natin yun kailangan eh.]

YUN NAMAN PALA E. BAKIT KA NAGPAPAPICTURE E HINDI MO NAMAN PALA KAILANGAN? BAKIT ANG MGA PASTOR NYO MAY LARAWAN TAPOS LARAWAN NI CRISTO E BAWAL? BAKIT ANG MGA LARAWAN NG INYONG MGA PASTOR AY NASA TV AT DIARYO BAKIT ANG KAY CRISTO E GALIT KAYO? KASI DEMONIO ANG RELIHIYON NYO. ANG MGA PASTOR NYO ANG NAGTATAG NG INYONG RELIHIYON HINDI SI CRISTO KAYA SILA ANG INYONG DIOS-DIOSAN. KAPAG PRAYER RALLY NINYO NASA MALAKING BANNERS ANG MGA MUKA NI EDDIE VILLANUEVA, BENNY HINN, JIMMY SWAGGART, ALMEDA, FERRIOL AT IBA PA. OK LANG SA INYO. PERO SA LARAWAN NI CRISTO GALIT NA GALIT KAYO. TALAGANG SA DEMONIO KAYO.

[Ginawa lang mangmang ang mga tao para maniwala ang tao na through those images, we can talk to God.]

ANG DIOS ANG MAY UTOS NIYAN. SIYA ANG NAGPAGAWA NG MGA LARAWAN AT GAWANG INANYUAN SA LOOB NG TEMPLO. IBIG SABIHIN PWEDENG GAMITIN ANG MGA LARAWANG IYON UPANG PARANGALAN AT SAMBAHIN ANG DIOS.

YUNG MGA DIOS-DIOSANG IPINAGBAWAL NG DIOS AY SIYA NAMING HINDI GINAWA AT INILAGAY SA AMING MGA TEMPLO.

[For Catholics, it's like a medium of their faith.]

ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY NA IBINIGAY AT PINAGAWA NG DIOS AY MAAARING GAWING INSTRUMENTO NG PANANAMPALATAYA. BAKIT HINDI BA GUMAGAMIT NG MICROPHONE ANG INYONG PASTOR PAGNANGANGARAL? BAKIT ANG INYONG MGA CHILDREN'S BIBLE AY MAY MGA DRAWINGS AT COLORED PICTURES AND IMAGES? MERON NGANG MGA STORY BOOKS ANG MGA BORN AGAIN NA MGA TADTAD NG LARAWAN. MERON DIN KAYONG NILALAGAY SA MGA BAHAY NA MGA POSTERS NA MAY LARAWAN AT MAY NAKADIKIT NA BIBLE VERSES. ME MGA LARAWAN DIN KAYO. SA CHRISTIAN BOOKSTORES NGA MERONG FOR SALE NA MGA LARAWAN NA MAY BIBLE VERSES PARA ILAGAY SA DINGDING, PINTUAN, PATI SA TASA.

[Psalm 115 4(F) Their idols are silver and gold, (G) the work of human hands.]

ANG MGA LARAWAN NG MGA BORN AGAIN AY MADE OF HUMAN HANDS. YANG MGA TARPAULIN NI EDDIE VILLANUEVA AY MADE OF HUMAN HANDS. KAYA SA DEMONIO YAN.

ANG MGA LARAWAN NAMIN AY LARAWAN NI CRISTO, NI MARIA AT NG MGA BANAL NA TAO SA BIBLIA. HINDI SILA IDOLS KUNDI 'THE LORD AND THE SAINTS'.

[5They have mouths,(H) but do not speak; eyes, but do not see.]

HUH, SI JESUS BA WALANG MOUTH? SI JESUS BA HINDI NAKAKAKITA? HA, HA, HA... MARY AND THE APOSTLES HAVE MOUTHS AND THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SEE.THEY ARE REAL MEN AND WOMEN OF FAITH.

ANG MGA IDOLS AY WALANG EXISTENCE BUT OUR LORD AND THE SAINTS HAVE EXISTENCE. THEY DO EXIST.

[6They have ears, but do not hear; noses, but do not smell.]

WALA PALANG TENGA SI JESUS AT SI MARIA, WALA RING ILONG. HA, HA, HA...

[7They have hands, but do not feel; feet, but do not walk; and they do not make a sound in their throat.]

HA, HA, HA... WALANG KAMAY ANG PANGINOONG JESUS? WALANG MGA PAA ANG BIRHENG MARIA? HA, HA, HA....

[8(I) Those who make them become like them; so do all who trust in them.]

SINCE WE MADE THE IMAGES OF JESUS AND MARY WE WILL BECOME LIKE JESUS AND MARY. WE ARE TRUE BELIEVERS OF GOD. IT IS YOUR SOUL WHO IS IN DANGER.

[Tingnan din natin yung description ng bible sa temple]

E DI SIGE, TIGNAN NATIN.

ANG MGA BORN AGAIN BA MAY TEMPLE? WALA. SA MGA MALLS AT BAHAY BAHAY LANG KAYO NAGTITIPON. KAMING MGA CATHOLICS ANG MAY TEMPLE.

2 Chronicles 3:3-7-10

[3 The foundation Solomon laid for building the temple of God was sixty cubits long and twenty cubits wide [b] (using the cubit of the old standard).

4 The portico at the front of the temple was twenty cubits [c] long across the width of the building and twenty cubits [d] high. He overlaid the inside with pure gold.]

O, BINALUTAN NG GINTO ANG TEMPLO. GANYAN ANG GINAWA NAMIN SA AMING MGA BASILICA AT MGA CATHEDRAL. PINAGANDA NAMIN NG HUSTO. SA INYO AY NAPAKA-PANGIT.

[5 He paneled the main hall with pine and covered it with fine gold and decorated it with palm tree and chain designs.]

AYAN, HINDI MA MAY MGA DECORASYON... ANO YON? LARAWAN NG MGA PUNO AT NGA KADENANG BULAKLAK. KADENA DE AMOR. LARAWAN YAN. LARAWAN YAN NG MGA BAGAY NA NASA LUPA.

[6 He adorned the temple with precious stones. And the gold he used was gold of Parvaim.]

KATULAD RIN NG MGA SIMBAHANG CATOLICO SA MAYAYAMANG LUGAR.

[7 He overlaid the ceiling beams, doorframes, walls and doors of the temple with gold, and he carved cherubim on the walls.]

AYAN, MAY CARVED IMAGES OF CHERUBIMS ON WALLS. IBIG SABIHIN ANG DINGDING NG TEMPLO AY MAY MGA INUKIT NA LARAWAN NG ANGHEL. SO, MARAMING MGA LARAWAN SA TEMPLO. HINDI TUTUO ANG MAKAHAYUP NA DOCTRINA NG BORN AGAIN NA BAWAL ANG LAHAT NG LARAWAN SA TEMPLO.

[8 He built the Most Holy Place, its length corresponding to the width of the temple—twenty cubits long and twenty cubits wide. He overlaid the inside with six hundred talents [e] of fine gold. 9 The gold nails weighed fifty shekels. [f] He also overlaid the upper parts with gold.]

MAYRONG MOST HOLY PLACE. KAGAYA NG CATHOLIC CHURCHES MERONG TABERNACLE AT ALTAR NA SIYANG MOST HOLY PLACE. KAYONG MGA BORN AGAIN WALA NON.

[10 In the Most Holy Place he made a pair of sculptured cherubim and overlaid them with gold.]

AYAN, MAYROONG LARAWAN NG KERUBIN NA YARI SA GINTO DUON MISMO SA LOOB NG MOST HOLY PLACE. KAYA NAMAN ANG AMING MGA ALTAR AY MAY LARAWAN. ANG MOST HOLY PLACE NAMIN AY MAY LARAWAN.

SA BORN AGAIN AY WALA. HUNGKAG. KAYA SA DEMONIO ANG SAMBAHAN NINYO.

[1 Kings 6:29 (New International Version) 29 On the walls all around the temple, in both the inner and outer rooms, he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers.]

O VERY CATHOLIC DIN. ANG SABI DYAN ANG LOOB AT LABAS NG MGA ROOMS NG TEMPLO AY MAY MGA LARAWANG INUKIT... MGA KERUBIN, PALMA AT MGA BULAKLAK. E GANYANG GANYAN ANG MGA CATHOLIC CHURCHES E. HA, HA, HA...

KUNG TULAD YAN NG MGA BORN AGAIN SANA ANG SINABI: "SA LOOB AT LABAS NG TEMPLO AY WALANG LARAWAN." HA, HA, HA...

Ezekiel 41:17 (New International Version)

[17 In the space above the outside of the entrance to the inner sanctuary and on the walls at regular intervals all around the inner and outer sanctuary]

O MAY SANCTUARY ANG TEMPLE. ANG CATHOLIC CHURCHES AY MAY SANCTUARY. KAYONG MGA BORN AGAIN AY WALA. HA, HA, HA...

[18 were carved cherubim and palm trees. Palm trees alternated with cherubim. Each cherub had two faces:]

KITAM, DIKIT DIKIT PA AT MAGKAKASUNOD AT ALTERNATE ANG MGA LARAWAN SA LOOB NG TEMPLO. VERY CATHOLIC. MARAMING LARAWAN SA TEMPLO. NILOLOKO MO KAMI E. SINASAMPAL KA NG SARILI MONG MGA TALATA. HA, HA, HA...

[19 the face of a man toward the palm tree on one side and the face of a lion toward the palm tree on the other. They were carved all around the whole temple.]

KITAM, MUKA NG TAO, LEON AT PUNONG KAHOY ANG MGA NAKALARAWAN AT INUKIT SA LOOB NG BUONG TEMPLO. VERY CATHOLIC. KAYA PWEDENG LAGYAN ANG TEMPLO NG MGA ITSURA NG TAO KASI SA TEMPLO MAY MGA MUKA NG TAO NA NAKALAGAY.

KAYA, PWEDE BA WAG MO KAMING PAGLOLOKOHIN.

[* SAAN MO MAKIKITA DITO SA VERSE NA ITO O KAYA SA BIBLE NA GUMAWA SILA NG REPLICA/REBULTO NI KRISTO O KAYA NG DIYOS AMA? WALA NAMAN DIBA?]

HA, HA, HA... E TANGA KA PALA E. ANONG LARAWAN NI CRISTO ANG HINAHANAP MO DIYAN E HINDI PA NAGKAKATAWANG TAO ANG VERBO NUNG PANAHON NA IYAN.

SUBALIT ANG MGA TALATA AY NAGPAPATUNAY NA SINUNGALING ANG MGA PASTOR NG BORN AGAIN DAHIL MARAMING LARAWAN SA LOOB NG TEMPLO. MGA LARAWANG INUKIT NG MGA NASA LANGIT [KERUBIN] AT LUPA [PALM TREES, FLOWERS, MAN, LIONS...]

[ISANG MALAKIING KATANGAHAN NG KATOLIKO NA GAMITIN ITONG VERSE NA TO PARA GUMAWA NG IMAHEN NG DIYOS. SINO NGAYON ANG MANGMANG? SINO ANG DINYODYOS NILA?]

IKAW ITONG TANGA. ANG IMAHEN NAMIN NG DIOS AY IMAHEN NA GALING SA BIBLIA. GAYA NG BURNING BUSH AT PILLAR OF FIRE. MAY MGA BIBLICAL IMAGES OF GOD.

[SINO BA ANG MGA MASA IMAHE NYO? YUN BA SI KRISTO?]

SIEMPRE SI CRISTO. KUNG HINDI YON SI CRISTO PARA SA YO E DI PATUNAYAN MO.

[EH IBA IBA NGA ANG MUKHA EH.]

TALAGANG TANGA KA NGA. DAHIL KAHIT NA ANG MGA LARAWAN NG TAONG MAY PHOTOS PAG DINIBUHO NG IBAT IBANG ARTISTS E IBA IBA ANG IMAGES NA LILITAW DAHIL IBA-IBA ANG STYLE, TECHNIQUES AT MEDIUMS NG MGA ARTISTS.

[LALAGYAN MO LANG BA NG BALBAS ANG ISANG PICTURE, SI KRISTO NA YUN?]

HINDI NAMIN BASTA-BASTA NILALAGYAN NG BALBAS ANG PICTURE NI JESUS. WE KNOW HIS IMAGE BECAUSE WE ARE THE FIRST CHRISTIANS:

1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

1 Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

1 Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

1 Jn 1:4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

ANG MGA UNANG CRISTIANO AY NAKITA AT NAPAGMASDAN AT NAHAWAKAN SI JESUS. KAYA ALAM NILA ANG ITSURA NI JESUS HINDI KAGAYA NG MGA BORN AGAIN NA MANGMANG KUNG ANO TALAGA ANG ITSURA NI JESUS.

[KAHIT PALA PICTURE KO LAGYAN LANG NG BIGOTE AT BALBAS PWEDE NG ILAGAY SA ALTAR NIYO EH.]

HINDI KAMI GUNGGONG PARA GAWIN YAN. HINDI LAHAT NG TAO AY KAURI MO.

[MAHIRAP BANG INTINDIHIN ANG VERSE NA TO?]

SA AMIN MADALI KAYA NGA MAYROON KAMING TEMPLO, HOLY PLACE AT SANCTUARY NA MAY MGA LARAWAN. KAYO ANG HINDI MAKAINTINDI.

SABI NG TALATA ANG TEMPLO AY MAY MGA NAKAUKIT NA LARAWAN SA LOOB AT LABAS. KAYA GANON DIN ANG SA AMIN.

MAHIRAP BANG INTINDIHIN YAN? HA, HA, HA...

[Ang Diyos ay espiritu kaya dapat siyang sambahin sa espiritu at sa katotohanan." Juan 4:24]

ANG DIOS NA ESPIRITU AY NAG-UTOS KAY MOISES NA MAGLAGAY NG MGA LARAWAN SA TEMPLO. KAYA ANG MGA BORN AGAIN AY MGA KAMPON NG DEMONIO DAHIL WALANG LARAWAN ANG KANILANG MGA BAHAY-SAMBAHAN.

December 4, 2010 1:35 PM

REPLY TO JUST FOR CATHOLICS.ORG. 2: HOW CAN I KNOW? ON BIBLE ALONE

St. Luke the Evangelist writing the Gospel Account under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and guided by the Apostles.

HOW CAN I KNOW?

* This is the second part of my rebuttal of the website JUSTFORCATHOLICS.ORG. of Joe Mizzi. Readers complained to me that it is very deceptive in style, pretending to be Catholic in order to lure our faithful to the Born-Again Cult.

[The Holy Scriptures are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus (2 Timothy 3:15).]

Yes, they can make you wise but it is nowhere stated by this passage that SCRIPTURES ALONE are the guide for salvation and it is also nowhere stated in this passage that we shall be saved by FAITH ALONE. NO, NO, NO… Your chosen verse does not give the conclusion that you are claiming to have been contained in the text. Thus, you are free to hallucinate until you open your eyes to the truth that your Scriptures Alone and Faith Alone Dogmas are UNBIBLICAL and mere TRADITION OF MEN.

[The Lord Jesus described two ways, the broad road leading to destruction and the narrow one leading to life. How can we know the way that leads to heaven, and avoid the other?]

By rejecting MAN-MADE DOCTRINES which are not truly coming from the Holy Spirit but from heretics who concocted new doctrines contrary to what is actually taught by the Lord Jesus and His Apostles under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. And your beloved doctrines of BIBLE ALONE, FAITH ALONE, RAPTURE, ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, SALVATION AS ONE-TIME EVENT, CHRISTIANS ARE DUNGHILL COVERED WITH SNOW AND MANY OTHERS are EXAMPLES OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS.

[The Gospel is the true way to life because it is God's message to humanity.]

CORRECT. BUT SOLA SCRIPTURA or BIBLE ALONE is contrary to the Gospel and is not contained in the Gospel. So, you claim that you are presenting the Gospel is a mere illusion not founded on reality. Where can you find in THE GOSPEL accounts that Jesus taught ‘Bible Alone’?

[People have invented several religions but all of them are false; the Bible warns us that “the world through wisdom did not know God” (1 Corinthians 1:21).]

THE MOST RECENT INVENTED RELIGIONS NOWADAYS ARE THE BORN-AGAIN SECTS. THEIR VERY REGISTRATION IN THE GOVERNMENT RECORDS FOR INCORPORATION SHOWS THAT THEY ARE NEWLY INVENTED IT IS THEREFORE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS PASSAGE AND THIS STATEMENT POINT DIRECTLY ON YOUR OWN BORN-AGAIN RELIGION.

[God's message is recorded in the Bible.]

YES. BUT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT GOD’S ENTIRE MESSAGE IS RECORDED IN THE BIBLE ALONE. WILL YOU PLEASE GIVE ME THE PASSAGE SAYING THAT THE WHOLE OF GOD’S MESSAGE OR THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF GOD IS RECORDED IN THE BIBLE ALONE?

[It was written by holy people who were guided by the Holy Spirit.]

HA, HA, HA… THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW YOU HAVE ACCEPTED OUR DOCTRINE THAT THERE ARE HOLY PEOPLE. IF THERE ARE HOLY PEOPLE THEN THESE PEOPLE WHO BECAME HOLY BY THE GRACE OF GOD ARE NOT ‘DUNGHILL COVERED WITH SNOW’ BECAUSE DUNGHILLS WHETHER COVERED WITH SNOW, KETCHUP, SOYSAUCE OR CREAM ARE STILL DIRTY. THE TRUE BELIEVERS ARE PURIFIED, CLEANSED AND SANCTIFIED BY GOD NOT JUST ‘IMPUTED’ BUT THOROUGHLY MADE HOLY.

HERE, YOU HAVE ACCEPTED OUR DOCTRINE ON SAINTS…THAT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN REDEEMED ARE MADE HOLY. THEY ARE THE ‘SAINTS’ OF GOD.

THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE BORN-AGAIN DOCTRINE OF IMPUTED JUSTIFICATION. BECAUSE THAT BELIEF DOES NOT SPEAK OF THE CLEANSING AND TOTAL SANCTIFICATION OF THE BELIEVERS BUT ONLY DECLARATION OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHILE REMAINING IN A STATE OF SIN – THUS, ‘DUNGHILL COVERED WITH SNOW’. NO MATTER HOW THICK THE SNOW IS THE HUMAN PERSON FOR THE BORN AGAIN IS NOT THE SNOW BUT THE DUNGHILL. YOU AND YOUR MEMBERS ARE VERY DIRTY THEN. FOR THAT REASON, THERE IS NO HOLY PERSONS AMONG THE BORN-AGAIN BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL ‘DUNGHILL COVERED WITH SNOW.’

[ We can trust the Bible because it is God's book.]

WE CAN TRUST THE BIBLE BECAUSE IT IS GOD’S BOOK. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE CANNOT TRUST THE BORN AGAIN BECAUSE THEIR DOCTRINE OF ‘BIBLE-ALONE’ IS UNBIBLICAL AND NON-BIBLICAL. IT IS AN INVENTED DOCTRINE ONLY INVENTED IN THE 16^TH CENTURY BY MARTIN LUTHER, THE HERETIC.

IF YOU TRULY TRUST THE BIBLE THEN YOU ARE COMPELLED TO REJECT ‘BIBLE ALONE’ DOCTRINE BECAUSE IT IS NOT PART OF THE BIBLE WHICH IS GOD’S BOOK. SOLA SCRIPTURA IS CONTRARY TO THE SCRIPTURES OF GOD.

[We can also be confident that it is the sure guide to Heaven.]

THE BIBLE YES BUT NOT THE BORN-AGAIN THEY ARE LIARS AND INVENTORS OF DOCTRINES.

[The Holy Scriptures “are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus” (2 Timothy 3:15).]

YES. BUT THE PASSAGE NEVER SPEAKS OF SOLA SCRIPTURA.

[What about church tradition? Jesus warned us against tradition (Mark 7:1-13).]

O LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. YOU ARE BEING DECEPTIVE HERE. THIS IS NOT APOSTOLIC TRADITION. WE DO NOT FOLLOW THE TRADITIONS OF THE JEWS CONCERNING WASHING OF HANDS, ETC. NO, NO, NO.

OUR APOSTOLIC TRADITION IS GIVEN HERE:

2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold THE TRADITIONS which ye have been taught, whether by WORD, or our EPISTLE.

SEE, HE, HE, HE… HOLD FAST TO THE TRADITIONS [plural]. STAND FAST TO THEM. AND THESE TRADITIONS ARE BOTH ORAL AND WRITTEN.

DEFINITELY THESE TRADITIONS REFERRED TO BY ST. PAUL ARE NOT THE SAME WITH THE ONE REJECTED BY JESUS. HOW COME YOU ARE IGNORANT OF IT? OR YOU DELIBERATELY WITHHELD THIS PASSAGE?

[He accused the Jews that they were “making the word of God of no effect through your tradition.” They should have remained faithful to the written Word. Similarly, church tradition has changed the clear teaching of the Bible.]

THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOT APOSTOLIC TRADITION IN BORN-AGAIN SECTS AND CULTS IS A SOLID PROOF OF ITS DEMONIC NATURE AND SATANIC ORIGIN. BECAUSE THE TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH HAS APOSTOLIC TRADITION:

2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after THE TRADITION WHICH HE RECEIVED OF US.

HOW COME THE BORN-AGAIN DO NOT HAVE TRADITION FROM THE APOSTLES? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT APOSTOLIC IN ORIGIN… INSTEAD THEY ARE NEWLY INVENTED BY THE MODERN DAY HERETICS.

[For instance, the church commends the veneration of statues even though the second commandment forbids the making of graven images and bowing down before them (Exodus 20:4).]

JOE MIZZI IS LYING HERE. EXODUS 20:4 FORBIDS THE MAKING OF GRAVEN IMAGES OF FALSE GODS AND IDOLS. BUT IT IS NOWHERE STATED IN THE PASSAGE THAT IT IS EVIL TO MAKE GRAVEN IMAGES OF ANGELS AND SAINTS. IN FACT, JUST FEW CHAPTERS AFTER EXODUS 20 GOD ORDERED… COMMANDED MOSES TO MAKE GRAVEN IMAGES OF CHERUBIMS TO BE PUT ON TOP OF THE ARK OF THE COVENANT WHICH WAS PLACED IN THE HOLY OF HOLIES:

Exodus 25:18 And thou shalt MAKE two CHERUBIMS OF GOLD, of BEATEN WORK shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

Exodus 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

Exodus 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

Exodus 25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.

Exodus 25:22 And there I will MEET with thee, and I will COMMUNE with thee from above the mercy seat, from BETWEEN THE TWO CHERUBIMS which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

O THAT IS VERY CLEAR. THE LORD GOD ORDERED MOSES TO MAKE STATUES OF CHERUBIMS MADE OF GOLD. AND IN VERSE 22 GOD PROMISED THAT HE WILL MEET MOSES BETWEEN THE TWO STATUES. IF STATUES AND ALL GRAVEN IMAGES ARE ABOMINABLE TO GOD THEN HOW COME HE CHOSE TO MEET AND COMMUNE WITH MOSES IN BETWEEN THESE STATUES?

THE FACT THAT GOD WANTS TO HAVE STATUES OF CHERUBIMS SHOWS THAT THE BORN-AGAIN ARE LYING TO US. NOT ALL STATUES ARE PROHIBITED BY GOD AND NOT ALL ARE VIOLATION OF HIS COMMAND NOT TO MAKE GRAVEN IMAGES WHICH IS A PROHIBITION ON FALSE GODS AND IDOLS. MUCH MORE, GOD CAN MEET AND COMMUNICATE WITH HIS PEOPLE THROUGH STATUES OF ANGELS AND OF HIS HOLY SERVANTS.

[What about religious teachers? We should listen to teachers as long as their teaching is faithful to the Bible.]

THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO REJECT THE BORN AGAIN PASTORS BECAUSE THEIR TEACHINGS ARE NOT FAITHFUL TO THE BIBLE. THEY INSTEAD RELY ON THE INVENTED DOGMAS OF MARTIN LUTHER AND OF JOHN CALVIN, TWO OF THE MOST POPULAR HERETICS IN THE LATER TIMES.

[We ought to imitate the people of Berea who “received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11).]

THE BEREANS SEARCHED THE SCRIPTURES DAILY LIKE WHAT THE CATHOLICS ARE DOING IN EVERY DAILY WORSHIPS BUT THEY DIDN’T ADVOCATE ‘BIBLE ALONE’. WHERE DID THE BEREANS SAY THAT? NOWHERE.

THE BEREANS DIDN’T PRACTICE SOLA SCRIPTURA. ACTUALLY YOUR INTERPRETATION OF L’AFFAIR BEREANS IS DISTORTED. LET US CHECK THE PASSASGE:

Act 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Act 17:12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

ACTS 17:10 THE APOSTLES SENT ST. PAUL AND SILAS TO BEREA WHY? BECAUSE SCRIPTURES ALONE ARE NOT ENOUGH. THEY NEED THE PRESENCE OF THE CHURCH AUTHORITY TO EXPLAIN THE SACRED SCRIPTURES TO THEM.

IN ACTS 17:11 ST. PAUL FOUND THE BEREANS MORE OPEN TO THE GOSPEL BECAUSE THEY WERE READING THE SCRIPTURES AND IN v. 12 THE BELIEVED. DID THEY BELIEVE THROUGH ‘BIBLE ALONE’? NO. THEY BELIEVED BECAUSE OF THE PREACHING OF STS. PAUL AND SILAS AND THEIR FIDELITY TO SACRED SCRIPTURES. IT’S NOT FAITH ALONE THEN BUT APOSTOLIC PREACHING + SCRIPTURES or VICE VERSA.

[What about our personal opinion? We should eagerly seek God's way, not our own. “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding” (Proverbs 3:5).]

VERY GOOD. WE MUST NOT BELIEVE YOU THEN BECAUSE YOUR TEACHINGS ARE ONLY YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINIONS. IN FACT, OTHER PASTORS ARE NOT TEACHING THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SAYING. ACTUALLY THERE IS NO UNITY IN DOCTRINES AMONG BORN-AGAIN. SO YOU AND YOUR FELLOW PASTORS MUST NOT BE TRUSTED AT ALL BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ‘GODS’. WE CAN ONLY TRUST GOD. I HOPE YOU HAVE AN IOTA OF TRUST ON YOUR WIFE, YOUR CHILDREN AND ON YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU ARE HUMAN.

[The Bible is the only sure guide to heaven.]

REALLY? WHERE IS THAT IN THE BIBLE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.

THAT DOCTRINE IS DEMONIC. WHY? THERE IS ANOTHER SURE GUIDE TO HEAVEN BESIDES THE BIBLE. WHAT IS THAT? THE CHURCH – THE PILLAR AND GROUND OF TRUTH:

1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is THE CHURCH of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

AND THIS ONE, TRUE CHURCH SHALL NOT BE OVERCAME EVEN BY THE GATE OF HELL:

Matthew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

O THAT IS CLEAR AND CATEGORICAL. THE CHURCH… THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH, NOT THE DISUNITED CHURCHES OF THE BORN AGAIN, BUT THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH IS THE PILLAR AND GROUND OF TRUTH. SO THEN, IF YOU ARE IN THE CHURCH YOU ARE GROUNDED ON TRUTH. THAT CHURCH IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

[The person who learns, believes and obeys its message can say: “Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path” (Psalm 119:105).]

THANK YOU AGAIN. SEE, YOU GOT IT CORRECTLY. IT IS NOT ‘FAITH ALONE’ BUT FAITH + GOOD WORKS [Learning and Obedience]. IT STARTS FROM LEARNING THEN BELIEVING AND THEN OBEYING. HE, HE, HE…

I LIKE YOU JOE MIZZI. YOU ARE AFFIRMING MANY OF OUR CATHOLIC BELIEFS TO THE DETRIMENT OF YOUR OWN.