IS IT TRUE THAT THE CHURCH WILLED BY JESUS IS NOT AN ORGANIZATION?

The Miracle of the Multiplication of Loaves

Martin Cruz said...

The Church Jesus Christ will build is not the organization which men only propose He founded. The Church is the body of Christ and the body of Christ is not any organization of men. Peter cannot be the first pope of the Roman Catholic Church organization. He is a chosen apostle of Jesus Christ, one of the twelve who were never given authorities as head or rulers of their brethren. http://martincruzjr68.blogspot.com/

May 14, 2011 5:21 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[The Church Jesus Christ will build is not the organization which men only propose He founded.]

HA HA HA... WHO TOLD YOU THAT IT WAS NOT AN ORGANIZATION? JESUS ORGANIZED IT HIMSELF WITH 12 APOSTLES AS LEADERS AND OF 72 DISCIPLES. THEN LATER THEY ORDAINED BISHOPS, PRESBYTERS AND DEACONS.

THEN THE BELIEVERS WERE CLUSTERED BY GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION: ROME, CORINTH, GALATIA, PHILIPPI, EPHESUS... YET THEY HAVE ONE GOD 1 Cor (1:8:6), ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM (1 Cor 12:13)... HOW CAN THAT BE NOT ORGANIZED AND NOT AN ORGANIZATION. THERE IS AN STRUCTURE, A SYSTEM OF AUTHORITY AS WELL AS BELIEFS... HE HE HE... YOU ARE HIGHLY CONFUSED. MOST PROBABLY YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF THE MEANING OF ORGANIZATION AND BEING ORGANIZED (cf. 1 Cor 12:12,20).

[The Church is the body of Christ and the body of Christ is not any organization of men.]

HA HA HA... THIS IS AN IDIOTIC STATEMENT. WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAYS THAT THE BODY OF CHRIST IS NOT AN ORGANIZATION OF MEN? NOWHERE. YOU ARE INVENTING A DOCTRINE THAT IS NOT BIBLICAL AND UNBIBLICAL. WHY? BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS COMPOSED BY APOSTLES, EVANGELISTS, BISHOPS, PRESBYTERS, DEACONS, BAPTIZED MEN AND WOMEN... HA HA HA... SO WHAT YOU CALL THE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES? ARE THEY HUMANS OR NOT? ARE THEY DOGS AND PARROTS FOR YOU? ARE PETER AND PAUL, ANDREW AND JAMES, BARNABAS AND MARK, TIMOTHY AND TITUS, LAZARUS, MARIA AND MARTHA OF BETHANY, AQUILA AND PRISCILA ARE NOT MEN AND WOMEN FOR YOU? WHAT ARE THEY? MONKEYS? HA HA HA...

THE CHURCH SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING IS THE BODY OF CHRIST BUT PRACTICALLY IT IS ALSO COMPOSED OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED IN CHRIST. ONLY IDIOTS WILL DENY THAT. EVEN THE ANALOGY OF THE BODY WAS USED FOR THE CHURCH BECAUSE THE BODY IS ONE EVEN THOUGH COMPOSED OF MANY MEMBERS AND THEREFORE ORGANIZED AND UNIFIED, COMPOSITE AND SUBSTANTIALLY INTERCONNECTED WITH EACH OTHER. ST. PAUL BRILLIANTLY DECLARED IT SO:

1 Cor 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

SEE, THE CHRISTIANS ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST... THEY ARE MEMBERS.

1 Cor 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1 Cor 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

VERY CLEAR THAT THE CHURCH IS COMPOSED OF MEMBERS WHO ARE HUMANS. HA HA HA... OBVIOUSLY THE MEMBERS OF YOUR CHURCH ARE NOT HUMANS. THEY ARE EITHER DEMONS OR ANIMALS. WHICH IS WHICH? IN TAGALOG: "SINO SA INYO ANG BRUHA?" HA HA HA...

[Peter cannot be the first pope of the Roman Catholic Church organization.]

HE IS THE FIRST POPE BECAUSE HE IS THE FIRST OF THE APOSTLES AND GIVEN BY JESUS A SPECIAL AUTHORITY HIGHER AND GREATER THAN THE OTHER APOSTLES. IT WAS ON HIM THAT THE KEYS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WERE GIVEN (Matthew 16:18-19)

[He is a chosen apostle of Jesus Christ, one of the twelve who were never given authorities as head or rulers of their brethren.]

HA HA HA... JESUS WORD FOR WORD ENTRUSTED THE KEYS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN TO ST. PETER. THAT IS BIBLICAL. NOW WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THAT NO AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO PETER? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.

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O MAY BE NOBODY READS YOUR BLOG SO THAT YOU ARE CALLING FOR ATTENTION HERE. IN TAGALOG: "KULANG KA SA PANSIN."

May 14, 2011 10:13 PM