Tuesday, June 7, 2011

CATHOLIC BA ANG TUNAY NA PANGALAN NG SANTA IGLESIA BAGO PA ANG GREAT SCHISM NG CATHOLIC AT ORTHODOX?






The Church of the Beatitudes on the northern coast of the Sea of Galilee. This is one of the ancient House of Worships of the Catholic Church in the Holy Land.

















Fiel
said...






salamat po fr. abe sa pag sagot mo sa tanong ko about the saints.

may
tanong pa po ako fr. nung hindi pa nagkaroon ng great schism between
orthodox ang catholic(east and west), catholic church po ba tawag sa
lahat ng simbahan(christian church)? nung nagkaroon ng great schism lang
ba tinawag na na orthodox church ang simbahan sa west? slamat po fr.

pagpalain nawa kayo ng Diyos. 












Fr. Abe, CRS
said... 

 



[salamat po fr. abe sa pag sagot mo sa tanong ko about the saints.]

WELCOME.

[may
tanong pa po ako fr. nung hindi pa nagkaroon ng great schism between
orthodox ang catholic(east and west), catholic church po ba tawag sa
lahat ng simbahan(christian church)?]


SIEMPRE CATHOLIC. IT WAS
THE PARTICULAR NAME OF THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH FOUNDED BY JESUS AND
SPREAD BY THE APOSTLES IN THEIR EVANGELIZATION.


THE ACTS OF THE
APOSTLES REFERS TO THE CHURCH THROUGH GALILEE, JUDEA, SAMARIA... AS
"EKKLESIA CATHOLES" i.e., CATHOLIC CHURCH or in literal translation:
"The Church throughout" = Universal.


THIS IS THE GREEK RENDERING OF THE ORIGINAL VERSE:

Act
9:31
Αἱ μὲν οὖν ἐκκλησίαι καθ᾿ ὅλης τῆς ᾿Ιουδαίας καὶ
Γαλιλαίας καὶ Σαμαρείας εἶχον εἰρήνην οἰκοδομούμεναι καὶ
πορευόμεναι τῷ φόβῳ τοῦ Κυρίου, καὶ τῇ παρακλήσει τοῦ
῾Αγίου Πνεύματος ἐπληθύνοντο.
[Hai men oun e EKKLESIA KATH'OLES tes
Ioudaias kai Galalaias kai Samarias...
]


ANG TUNAY NA PANGALAN NG
SANTA IGLESIA AY HINDI GALING SA TAGALOG O ENGLISH BIBLE KUNDI SA GREEK
BIBLE NA ORIGIHINAL AT ISINAGAWA ITO NUON PANG PANAHON NG MGA APOSTLES.
HINDI PEKE AT NEWLY INVENTED ANG NAME NG CHURCH NATIN. 






 



[nung nagkaroon ng great schism lang ba tinawag na na orthodox church ang simbahan sa west?]

YES.
DAHIL ANG OFFICIAL NA NAME NG SANTA IGLESIA SA BUONG MUNDO AY CATHOLIC
CHURCH. IN PARTICULAR ANG TAWAG SA MGA LOCAL CHURCHES AY BASED ON THE
PLACE WHERE IT IS EXISTING FOR INSTANCE: CHURCH OF ROME, CHURCH OF
JERUSALEM, CHURCH OF ANTIOCH, CHURCH OF EPHESUS, ETC. PERO ANG UNIVERSAL
NAME AS ONE AND AS A WHOLE IS 'CATHOLIC CHURCH'. ITO AY PINATUTUNAYAN
NG MGA LUMANG MGA DOCUMENTS AND TESTIMONIES OF EARLY CHRISTIAN BISHOPS,
WRITERS AND SCHOLARS:

"See that ye all follow the bishop, even as
Christ Jesus does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the
apostles. Do ye also reverence the deacons, as those that carry out the
appointment of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church
without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is
[administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted
it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be;
by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the
bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, wherever
Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
Ignatius of Antioch,
Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110).

"[A]ll the people
wondered that there should be such a difference between the unbelievers
and the elect, of whom this most admirable Polycarp was one, having in
our own times been an apostolic and prophetic teacher, and bishop of the
Catholic Church which is in Smyrna. For every word that went out of his
mouth either has been or shall yet be accomplished."
Martyrdom of
Polycarp, 16:2 (A.D. 155).

“…to be in honour however with the
Catholic Church for the ordering of ecclesiastical discipline...one to
the Laodicenes, another to the Alexandrians, both forged in Paul's name
to suit the heresy of Marcion, and several others, which cannot be
received into the Catholic Church; for it is not fitting that gall be
mixed with honey. The Epistle of Jude no doubt, and the couple bearing
the name of John, are accepted by the Catholic Church...But of Arsinous,
called also Valentinus, or of Militiades we receive nothing at all.”

The fragment of Muratori (A.D. 177).

"[N]or does it consist in
this, that he should again falsely imagine, as being above this [fancied
being], a Pleroma at one time supposed to contain thirty, and at
another time an innumerable tribe of Aeons, as these teachers who are
destitute of truly divine wisdom maintain; while the Catholic Church
possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world, as we have
already said."
Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1:10,3 (A.D. 180).

“For
it is evident that those men lived not so long ago,--in the reign of
Antoninus for the most part,--and that they at first were believers in
the doctrine of the Catholic Church, in the church of Rome under the
episcopate of the blessed Eleutherus, until on account of their ever
restless curiosity, with which they even infected the brethren, they
were more than once expelled.”
Tertullian, On the Prescription Against
Heretics, 22,30 (A.D. 200). 







”Whence you ought to know that the bishop is in the Church, and the
Church in the bishop; and if any one be not with the bishop, that he is
not in the Church, and that those flatter themselves in vain who creep
in, not having peace with God's priests, and think that they communicate
secretly with some; while the Church, which is Catholic and one, is not
cut nor divided, but is indeed connected and bound together by the
cement of priests who cohere with one another.”
Cyprian, To Florentius,
Epistle 66/67 (A.D. 254).

“But for those who say, There was when
He was not, and, Before being born He was not, and that He came into
existence out of nothing, or who assert that the Son of God is of a
different hypostasis or substance...these the Catholic and apostolic
Church anathematizes.”
Creed of Nicea (A.D. 325).

"Concerning
those who call themselves Cathari, if they come over to the Catholic and
Apostolic Church, the great and holy Synod decrees that they who are
ordained shall continue as they are in the clergy. But it is before all
things necessary that they should profess in writing that they will
observe and follow the dogmas of the Catholic and Apostolic Church; in
particular that they will communicate with persons who have been twice
married, and with those who having lapsed in persecution have had a
period [of penance] laid upon them, and a time [of restoration] fixed so
that in all things they will follow the dogmas of the Catholic
Church..."
Council of Nicaea I (A.D. 325).

“Concerning this Holy
Catholic Church Paul writes to Timothy, 'That thou mayest know haw thou
oughtest to behave thyself in the House of God, which is the Church of
the Living God, the pillar and ground of the truth'”
Cyril of Jerusalem,
Catechetical Lectures,18:25(A.D. 350).

"[T]he Article, In one
Holy Catholic Church,' on which, though one might say many things, we
will speak but briefly. It is called Catholic then because it extends
over all the world, from one end of the earth to the other; and because
it teaches universally and completely one and all the doctrines which
ought to come to men's knowledge, concerning things both visible and
invisible, heavenly and earthly… for this cause the Faith has securely
delivered to thee now the Article, And in one Holy Catholic Church;'
that thou mayest avoid their wretched meetings, and ever abide with the
Holy Church Catholic in which thou wast regenerated. And if ever thou
art sojourning in cities, inquire not simply where the Lord's House is
(for the other sects of the profane also attempt to call their own dens
houses of the Lord), nor merely where the Church is, but where is the
Catholic Church. For this is the peculiar name of this Holy Church, the
mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the
Only-begotten Son of God.”
Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures,
18:23,26 (A.D. 350).

"I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy
Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the remission of sins, the
resurrection of the flesh, and eternal life. Amen."
Apostles Creed (A.D.
360).

"And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the life-giver, Who
proceeds from the Father, Who with the Father and the Son is together
worshiped and together glorified, Who spoke through the prophets; in one
holy Catholic, and apostolic Church."
Constantinopolitan Creed (A.D.
381). 







"Those who from heresy turn to orthodoxy, and to the portion of those
who are being saved, we receive according to the following method and
custom: Arians, and Macedonians, and Sabbatians, and Novatians, who call
themselves Cathari or Aristori, and Quarto-decimans or Tetradites, and
Apollinarians, we receive, upon their giving a written renunciation [of
their errors] and anathematize every heresy which is not in accordance
with the Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of God."
Council of
Constantinople I, Canon 7 (A.D. 381).

“We must hold to the
Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is Catholic
and which is called Catholic not only by her own members but even by
all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk
about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they
call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood
unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs
in her regard.”
Augustine, The True Religion, 7:12 (A.D. 390).

“Inasmuch,
I repeat, as this is the case, we believe also in the Holy Church,
[intending thereby] assuredly the Catholic. For both heretics and
schismatics style their congregations churches. But heretics, in holding
false opinions regarding God, do injury to the faith itself; while
schismatics, on the other hand, in wicked separations break off from
brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe.
Wherefore neither do the heretics belong to the Church catholic, which
loves God; nor do the schismatics form a part of the same.”
Augustine,
On Faith and Creed, 10:21 (A.D. 393).

"For in the Catholic
Church, not to speak of the purest wisdom, to the knowledge of which a
few spiritual, men attain in this life…--not to speak of this wisdom,
which you do not believe to be in the Catholic Church, there are many
other things which most justly keep me in her bosom. The consent of
peoples and nations…so does her authority…the succession of
priests…[a]nd so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not
without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so
that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a
stranger asks where the Catholic Church meets, no heretic will venture
to point to his own chapel or house. Such then in number and importance
are the precious ties belonging to the Christian name which keep a
believer in the Catholic Church…Now if the truth is so clearly proved as
to leave no possibility of doubt, it must be set before all the things
that keep me in the Catholic Church…For my part, I should not believe
the gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church…for
it was through the Catholics that I got my faith in it; and so, whatever
you bring from the gospel will no longer have any weight with me.
Wherefore, if no clear proof of the apostleship of Manichaeus is found
in the gospel, I will believe the Catholics rather than you."
Augustine,
Against the Epistle of Manichaeus, 4:5,5:6 (A.D 397).

"You think
that you make a very acute remark when you affirm the name Catholic to
mean universal, not in respect to the communion as embracing the whole
world, but in respect to the observance of all Divine precepts and of
all the sacraments, as if we (even accepting the position that the
Church is called Catholic because it honestly holds the whole truth, of
which fragments here and there are found in some heresies) rested upon
the testimony of this word's signification, and not upon the promises of
God, and so many indisputable testimonies of the truth itself, our
demonstration of the existence of the Church of God in all nations."

Augustine, To Vincent the Rogatist, 93:7,23 (A.D. 403). 







"Philip the presbyter and legate of the Apostolic See said: There is no
doubt, and in fact it has been known in all ages, that the holy and most
blessed Peter, prince and head of the Apostles, pillar of the faith,
and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom
from our Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour and Redeemer of the human race,
and that to him was given the power of loosing and binding sins: who
down even to to-day and forever both lives and judges in his
successors."
Council of Ephesus, Session III (A.D. 431).

"I have
often then inquired earnestly and attentively of very many men eminent
for sanctity and learning, how and by what sure and so to speak
universal rule I may be able to distinguish the truth of Catholic faith
from the falsehood of heretical depravity; and I have always, and in
almost every instance, received an answer to this effect: That whether I
or anyone else should wish to detect the frauds and avoid the snares of
heretics as they arise, and to continue sound and complete in the
Catholic faith, we must, the Lord helping, fortify our own belief in two
ways; first, by the authority of the Divine Law, and then, by the
Tradition of the Catholic Church…Therefore, it is very necessary, on
account of so great intricacies of such various error, that the rule for
the right understanding of the prophets and apostles should be framed
in accordance with the standard of Ecclesiastical and Catholic
interpretation"
Vincent of Lerins, Commonitory for the Antiquity and
Universality of the Catholic Faith, 2:4,5 (A.D. 434).

"Wherefore
the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome,
through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the
thrice blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the rock and
foundation of the Catholic Church, and the foundation of the orthodox
faith, hath stripped him of the episcopate, and hath alienated from him
all hieratic worthiness. Therefore let this most holy and great synod
sentence the before mentioned Dioscorus to the canonical penalties."

Council of Chalcedon, Session III (A.D. 451).





ANG GREAT SCHISM BETWEEN THE CATHOLIC AND THE ORTHODOX CHURCH HAPPENED
IN THE YEAR 1054 BUT HERE LOOK AT THE OFFICIAL CREED STATEMENT OF
NICEA-CONSTANTINOPOLITAN CREED [381A.D.] WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL CREED OF
BOTH CATHOLIC AND ORTHODOX:

"And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord,
the life-giver, Who proceeds from the Father, Who with the Father and
the Son is together worshiped and together glorified, Who spoke through
the prophets; in one holy CATHOLIC, and apostolic Church."
[Constantinopolitan Creed (A.D. 381)]

THE DESCRIPTION AND NAME
GIVEN IS CATHOLIC. THE TERM ORTHODOX DOESN'T EVEN APPEAR IN THE OFFICIAL
CREED COMPOSED BY THE FATHERS OF THE CHURCH PRIOR TO THE GREAT SCHISM.



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