Artistic representation of Revelation 12 with Mary the Mother of the Messiah as the Woman Clothed with the Sun, Satan as the Ancient Dragon defeated by St. Michael the Archangel who remained faithful to God.
Fiel
said...
speaking of saints fr.
1.bakit po may mga saints na sinasabi ang ating simbahan na non-existing?
2.ano po ba ang batayan nila upang tanggalin ang mga saints na sinasabing non-existing?
3.papaano po benatify at kenanonize ang mga mga saints na mga anghel tulad ni st michael archangel, st rafael etc?
4.pwede po ba tayong magdasal sa mga saints ng mga orthodox na hindi naman kinikilalalng saints ng mga katoliko?
salamat po fr..jpg "Fr. Abe, CRS")
Fr. Abe, CRS
said...
[speaking of saints fr.
1.bakit po may mga saints na sinasabi ang ating simbahan na non-existing?]
WALANG SAINTS NA NON-EXISTING.
ANG
SINASABING NON-EXISTING AY IYONG MGA HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS SHOWING THEIR
EXISTENCE KASI NABUHAY SILA NUON PA. BUT THE FACT THAT THE CHURCH
TEACHES AND TESTIFIES THAT THESE SAINTS REALLY EXISTED IS A SOLID PROOF
IN FAVOR OF THEIR EXISTENCE. REMEMBER THAT IN CASE OF DOUBT PRESUMPTION
IS ON THE SIDE OF THE AUTHORITY. THE AUTHORITY ON THIS MATTER IS THE
CHURCH AND THE CHURCH RECOGNIZES THAT THE PARTICULAR SAINT LIVED ON
EARTH AS ONE OF HER HEROIC MEMBERS IS AN UNDENIABLE FACT. IF OTHER WILL
DENY THEIR EXISTENCE IT IS THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THEM.
LET
THE DENIERS PROVE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT THAT THOSE SAINTS REALLY
DIDN'T EXIST HISTORICALLY. FOR OUR COUNTRY IT IS THE SAME WHEN A
FOREIGNER CLAIMS THAT RAJAH SULAIMAN OR LAKANDULA WERE NOT HISTORICAL.
OUR OWN HISTORY AS A PEOPLE AND AS A NATION IS THE LIVING PROOF THAT
THEY TRULY EXISTED. THEIR EXISTENCE IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE BOOKS
WRITTEN BY FOREIGNERS.
ANOTHER THING, SINCE SOME OF OUR SAINTS
LIVED A LONG TIME AGO MANY STORIES WERE SPREAD ABOUT THEM. THE CHURCH
SIMPLY ACCEPTS THE HISTORICITY OF THEIR EXISTENCE AND THEIR SANCTITY OF
LIFE. WE ARE NOT BOUND TO DEFEND THE SO-CALLED MYTHS OR STORIES
CONNECTED WITH THEM WHICH DEVELOPED IN SOME LITERATURES.
[2.ano po ba ang batayan nila upang tanggalin ang mga saints na sinasabing non-existing?]
HINDI
SILA TINANGGAL AS SAINTS. SAINTS PA RIN SILA. WALA NAMANG GINAGAWA ANG
PAPA NA DECLARATION REVOKING THE CANONIZATION OR PROHIBITING THE
VENERATION OF THESE SAINTS. HE HE HE...
BECAUSE THERE ARE NEW AND
MORE POPULAR SAINTS SUCH AS ST. PADRE PIO, ST. FAUSTINA, ST. LORENZO DE
MANILA, BLESSED MOTHER TERESA, BLESSED JOHN XXIII AND BLESSED POPE JOHN
PAUL THE GREAT SO THE SAINTS WHO ARE NO LONGER THAT POPULAR ARE
REPLACED 'IN THE LITURGICAL CALENDAR' BY THE NEWER AND MORE POPULAR
ONES.
IN SHORT, THEY ARE NOT REMOVED AS SAINTS THEY ARE ONLY REPLACED IN THE LIST OF SAINTS IN THE CALENDAR. HE HE HE...
[3.papaano po benatify at kenanonize ang mga mga saints na mga anghel tulad ni st michael archangel, st rafael etc?]
HA
HA HA.... ANG MGA SAINTS NA NASA BIBLE JUST LIKE THE ANGELS, THE VIRGIN
MARY, ST. JOSEPH, ST. PETER AND ST. PAUL, ETC. DO NOT NEED
CANONIZATION. IT WAS GOD, THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE BIBLE ITSELF WHO
CANONIZED THEM. THEY ARE ALREADY CONSIDERED AS SAINTS DUE TO SOLID
TESTIMONIES OF THEIR HOLINESS OR FIDELITY TO GOD AS RECORDED IN SACRED
SCRIPTURES.
FOR INSTANCE, REV. 12:9 STATES THAT ST. MICHAEL WAS
THE ONE WHO DEFEATED SATAN DURING THE REBELLION IN HEAVEN. IT MEANS ST.
MICHAEL WAS FAITHFUL TO GOD AS SATAN WAS A TRAITOR. SO, HE IS A SAINT IN
HEAVEN. SAINT MEANS 'HOLY' AND HEROICALLY LIVED FAITHFULLY TO GOD.
[4.pwede po ba tayong magdasal sa mga saints ng mga orthodox na hindi naman kinikilalalng saints ng mga katoliko?]
WELL,
ALMOST ALL OF CATHOLIC SAINTS AND ORTHODOX SAINTS ARE RECOGNIZED BY
BOTH SIDE ESPECIALLY THE SAINTS DURING THE FIRST 1,000 YEARS OF
CHRISTIANITY WHEN WE WERE STILL UNITED. LIKE STS. ATHANASIUS, CYRIL OF
ALEXANDRIA, JOHN CHRYSOSTOM, ETC. WE ARE NEITHER PROHIBITED TO VENERATE
THEIR NEW SAINTS NOR WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO SO.
[salamat po fr.]
WELCOME
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