Tuesday, October 19, 2010

REFUTING ANOTHER ORTHODOX AND HIS COPY-PASTED ANTI-PAPACY MATERIALS, part 5

Saint Peter. Ca 1468. National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C.



PART 4:


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Joel said...

The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter




The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter, but on Confession of His Faith in Christ as true God and true Man in the One Person of Christ




St. Hilary of Poitiers




St. Hilary of Poitiers: “And this is the Rock of confession whereon the Church is built...that Christ must be not only named, but believed, the Son of God.This faith is that which is the foundation of the Church; through this faith the gates of hell cannot prevail against her. This is the faith which has the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatsoever this faith shall have loosed or bound on earth shall be loosed or bound in heaven...The very reason why he is blessed is that he confessed the Son of God. This is the Father's revelation, this the foundation of the Church, this the assurance of her permanence. Hence has she the keys of the kingdom of heaven, hence judgment in heaven and judgment on earth....Thus our one immovable foundation, our one blissful rock of faith, is the confession from Peter's mouth, Thou art the Son of the living God”[St. Hilary, On The Trinity, Book VI.36,37; Book II.23; Book VI.20.]




St. Ambrose of Milan: “Faith, then, is the foundation of the Church, for it was not said of Peter's flesh, but of his faith, that 'the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.' But his confession of faith conquered hades. And this confession did not shut out (even) one heresy, for, since the Church like a good ship is often buffeted by many waves, the foundation of the Church should prevail against all heresies" [St. Ambrose, On the Sacrament of the Incarnation of the Lord, Ch. 5]




St. Ambrose of Milan




St. Ambrose: “Believe, therefore, as Peter believed, that thou also mayest be blessed, and that thou also mayest deserve to hear, 'Because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but My Father Who is in heaven, etc.'... Great is the grace of Christ, Who has imparted almost all His Own names to His disciples. 'I am,' said He, 'the light of the world,' and ..., 'Ye are the light of the world.' 'I am the living bread'; and 'we all are one bread' (1 Cor. x.17)...Christ is the rock, for 'they drank of the same spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ' (1 Cor. x.4); also He denied not to His disciple the grace of this name; that he should be Peter (petrus), because he has from the Rock (petra) the solidity of constancy, the firmness of faith. Make an effort, therefore, to be a rock! Do not seek the rock outside of yourself, but within yourself! Your rock is your deed, your rock is your mind. Upon this rock your house is built. Your rock is your faith, and faith is the foundation of the Church. If you are a rock, you will be in the Church, because the Church is on a rock. If you are in the Church the gates of hell will not prevail against you...He who has conquered the flesh is a foundation of the Church; and if he cannot equal Peter, he can imitate him (Commentary on Luke, VI.98, CSEL 32.4).




St. Bede the Venerable




St. Bede the Venerable: “'Thou art Peter [Petrus ], and upon this Rock [Petra] from which thou didst receive thy name, that is, upon Me Myself, I will build the Church, and if anyone turns aside from the society of this confession, even though it may seem to him that he does great things, he will not belong to the building which is the Church.”[“Homily 1.16, After Epiphany, “Homilies on the Gospels Book I, 163]



St. John Chrysostom




St. John Chrysostom: “'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church'; that is, on the faith of his confession”[St. John, Homily 53 on St. Matthew].




St. John Chrysostom: “He speaks from this time lowly things, on His way to His passion, that He might show His humanity. For He that hath built His Church upon Peter's confession, and has so fortified it, that ten thousand dangers and deaths are not to prevail over it...”[St. John Chrysostom, Homily 82.3 on St. Matthew]




Pope St. Leo the Great comments on the words: “Upon this Rock I will build My Church and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it:




“Upon this firmness, He says, I shall raise My Temple, and it will rise upon the steadfastness of this Faith, and the loftiness of My Church shall mingle with the heavens. The gates of hades shall not master this profession (of faith); nor shall the bonds of death bind it. For these words are the words of life, and as they raise those who confess them up to heaven, so they plunge those that deny them down to hell.” [Sermon 83(2), P. L. 54 (col. 429), in FC, 93:357; Toal, II:267, 268]




[NOTE: Pope St. Leo the Great reads Matthew 16 as confirming that the Orthodox or right-believing Church and Profession of Faith shall never fail, not the orthodoxy of whoever holds the Roman episcopate.]




St. Gregory the Great




St. Gregory the Great: “And therefore, beloved brother,...remember that system of doctrine of which the chief of all the Apostles, the blessed Peter, laid the foundation ...As I have said, the Rock (petra) of the catholic Faith, from which the blessed Apostle Peter [Petrus] derived his name at the Lord's hands, rejects every trace of either heresy (Nestorianism or Monophysitism)”[St. Gregory the Great, Letter CXIX. To Maximus, Bishop of Antioch, by the Hand of Marian the Presbyter, and Olympius the Deacon; Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers Series II Volume XII.]




St. Maximus the Confessor




St. Maximus the Confessor: "Christ the Lord called that Church the Catholic Church which maintains the true and saving confession of the Faith. It was for this confession that He called Peter blessed, and He declared that He would found His Church upon this confession.”[quoted in Pope Anastasius (the Librarian), The Life of Our Holy Father St. Maximus the Confessor (Boston: Holy Transfiguration, 1982), pp. 60-62]



Augustine of Hippo




Saint Augustine of Hippo, considered the greatest of all the pre-Scholastic Fathers by the Roman Catholic Church, yet also refutes the Papal interpretation, saying:




"Christ said to Peter....I will build you upon Myself...Those who wish to be built upon men say, 'I am of Paul, I am of Apollos, I am of Cephas.' However, those who did not wish to be built upon Peter but upon the Rock say, I am of Christ"(Augustine, Retractions, 13th Sermon)




Augustine of Hippo: “In Peter, which means Rocky, we see our attention drawn to the Rock. Now the apostle Paul says about the former people, 'They drank from the spiritual rock that was following them; but the rock was Christ' (1 Cor 10:4). So this disciple is called Rocky from the Rock, like a Christian is from Christ. Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be understood. Christ, you see, built His Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the Rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer" (John Rotelle, O.S.A., Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993), Sermons, Volume III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327).




The doors of Holy Orthodoxy are open wide and an invitation is extended to come and see. Examine her Faith, her worship, her history, her commitment to Christ, her love for God the Father, her communion with the Holy Spirit, her Mystery. She has kept the "faith once delivered unto the saints" free from the distortions of human innovations. Man-made doctrines have never found their way into the Orthodox Church, since she has no necessary association in history with the name of one single father or theologian. Come home to the Faith of Peter and Paul!



Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter]




HA, HA, HA... REALLY? WELL, LET US SEE IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT. LET ME CHECK YOUR PROOFS AND I WILL ALSO INVESTIGATE YOUR QUOTES IT THEY WILL BE FAVORABLE TO CONSTANTINOPLE OR MOSCOW.




[The Church Was Not Founded on the Person of Peter, but on Confession of His Faith in Christ as true God and true Man in the One Person of Christ]




HA, HA, HA... THIS DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING. IF THE CHURCH IS FOUNDED ON CONFESSION OF PETER THEN PETER IS STILL THE HIGHEST AUTHORITY OVER THE OTHER APOSTLES. OTHERWISE, THE CHURCH SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT ON CONFESSION OF JAMES OR OF JOHN OR OF ANDREW. OR THE CHURCH CHURCH HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THE WRITINGS OF PAUL. HA, HA, HA.... BUT NO, NO, NO... THE CHURCH IS BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF PETER. WHETHER IT IS THE PERSON OF PETER OR THE CONFESSION OF PETER, IT IS STILL PETER NOT ANYONE ELSE.




SO, YOUR ARGUMENT IS PATHETIC. YOU ARE ONLY MAKING A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF AND THE WEBSITE WHERE YOU GET THIS JUNK.




[St. Hilary of Poitiers]




LET ME SEE IF ST. HILARY WILL FAVOR YOUR OPINION.



[St. Hilary of Poitiers: “And this is the Rock of confession whereon the Church is built...that Christ must be not only named, but believed, the Son of God.This faith is that which is the foundation of the Church; through this faith the gates of hell cannot prevail against her. This is the faith which has the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatsoever this faith shall have loosed or bound on earth shall be loosed or bound in heaven...The very reason why he is blessed is that he confessed the Son of God. This is the Father's revelation, this the foundation of the Church, this the assurance of her permanence. Hence has she the keys of the kingdom of heaven, hence judgment in heaven and judgment on earth....Thus our one immovable foundation, our one blissful rock of faith, is the confession from Peter's mouth, Thou art the Son of the living God”[St. Hilary, On The Trinity, Book VI.36,37; Book II.23; Book VI.20.]




HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. ST. HILARY NEVER STATED THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT FOUNDED ON PETER. WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE TEXT. NO, NO, NO...




ST. HILARY ACTUALLY EXALTS ST. PETER AS THE BEARER OF THE TRUE FAITH. DO YOU KNOW THE IMPLICATION OF YOUR CLAIM "THE CHURCH IS BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF ST. PETER"? IT MEANS THAT ST. PETER IS THE BEARER OF THE TRUE FAITH. THE CATHOLIC FAITH IS ROOTED IN THE CONFESSION OF PETER. YOU ONLY EXALTED PETER ALL THE MORE. HA, HA, HA...




BUT, HOW COME THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF THE FIRST BISHOP OF MOSCOW AND OF CONSTANTINOPLE OR OF ALEXANDRIA? WHY? HA, HA, HA...




TO MAKE YOU HAPPIER HERE IS ANOTHER CHURCH FATHER FROM THE EAST:



“...the chief of the disciples...the Lord accepted him, set him up as the foundation, called him the rock and structure of the church.” Aphraates, De Paenitentibus Homily 7:15 (A.D. 337).




SEE, ST. PETER IS THE FOUNDATION, THE ROCK AND STRUCTURE OF THE CHURCH. HA, HA, HA... YOU SEE, YOU ARE A LIAR. PETER IS THE FOUNDATION, THE STRUCTURE AND HIS CONFESSION IS ALSO FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. HE, HE, HE... BOTH ARE UPHELD BY THE FATHERS.




“The memory of Peter, who is the head of the apostles...he is the firm and most solid rock, on which the savior built his Church.” Gregory of Nyssa, Panegyric on St. Stephen, 3 (ante A.D. 394).




HA, HA, HA... ST. GREGORY OF NYSSA SLAPS YOU FOR YOUR LIES. HA, HA, HA... ST. PETER IS THE HEAD OF THE APOSTLES. IT MEANS THAT HE IS HIGHER THAN THEM AND HE TEACHES THAT THE LORD BUILT THE CHURCH ON PETER. HA, HA, HA...



[St. Ambrose of Milan: “Faith, then, is the foundation of the Church, for it was not said of Peter's flesh, but of his faith, that 'the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.' But his confession of faith conquered hades. And this confession did not shut out (even) one heresy, for, since the Church like a good ship is often buffeted by many waves, the foundation of the Church should prevail against all heresies" [St. Ambrose, On the Sacrament of the Incarnation of the Lord, Ch. 5]]




HA, HA, HA... AGAIN, THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION. HERE, THE FAITH OF PETER IS BEING EXALTED. HA, HA, HA... NOWHERE STATED HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER. O NO, NO, NO...




[St. Ambrose of Milan


St. Ambrose: “Believe, therefore, as Peter believed, that thou also mayest be blessed, and that thou also mayest deserve to hear, 'Because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but My Father Who is in heaven, etc.'... Great is the grace of Christ, Who has imparted almost all His Own names to His disciples. 'I am,' said He, 'the light of the world,' and ..., 'Ye are the light of the world.' 'I am the living bread'; and 'we all are one bread' (1 Cor. x.17)...Christ is the rock, for 'they drank of the same spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ' (1 Cor. x.4); also He denied not to His disciple the grace of this name; that he should be Peter (petrus), because he has from the Rock (petra) the solidity of constancy, the firmness of faith. Make an effort, therefore, to be a rock! Do not seek the rock outside of yourself, but within yourself! Your rock is your deed, your rock is your mind. Upon this rock your house is built. Your rock is your faith, and faith is the foundation of the Church. If you are a rock, you will be in the Church, because the Church is on a rock. If you are in the Church the gates of hell will not prevail against you...He who has conquered the flesh is a foundation of the Church; and if he cannot equal Peter, he can imitate him (Commentary on Luke, VI.98, CSEL 32.4).]




HA, HA, HA... IF YOU WANT TO BE BLESSED BELIEVED AS PETER BELIEVED. IMAGINE THAT. IT EXALTS PETER. THE CRITERION FOR BLESSEDNESS IS THE FAITH OF PETER. HA, HA, HA... THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION.




THERE IS NO STATEMENT HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT FOUNDED ON PETER. NADA, NYET, NYET. HA, HA, HA... NOTHING HERE THAT SUPPORTS CONSTANTINOPLE, ALEXANDRIA OR MOSCOW. NOTHING AT ALL.




WELL, ON MY PART HERE ARE SOME MORE:




"Simon, My follower, I have made you the foundation of the Holy Church. I betimes called you Peter (Kepha), because you will support all its buildings. You are the inspector of those who will build on earth a Church for me...I have given you the keys of my kingdom. Behold, have given you authority over all my treasures." Ephraim, Homily 4:1, (A.D. 373).




ST. EPHREM QUOTES THE LORD AS SAYING PETER IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. HA, HA, HA...



“The first of the apostles, the solid rock on which the Church was built.” Epiphanius, In Ancorato, 9:6 (A.D. 374).




ST. EPIPHANIUS MAKES PETER THE 'FIRST' OF THE APOSTLES. BUT YOU FOOLISHLY THINK THAT PETER IS SECOND TO JAMES, AREN'T YOU? HA, HA, HA... AND ST. EPIPHANIUS DECLARES THAT ON PETER THE CHURCH WAS BUILT. HA, HA, HA... POOR YOU. YOU ARE BEING JUNKED BY THE EASTERN FATHERS.




“Peter upon which rock the Lord promised that he would build his church.” Basil, In Isaias, 2:66 (A.D. 375).




SO, THE PROMISED ONE TO WHOM THE CHURCH WAS BUILT IS NO OTHER THAN PETER. HE, HE, HE... POOR YOU. YOU ARE SLAPPED ON THE FACE BY YOUR OWN EASTERN FATHERS. HA, HA, HA....



[St. Bede the Venerable


St. Bede the Venerable: “'Thou art Peter [Petrus ], and upon this Rock [Petra] from which thou didst receive thy name, that is, upon Me Myself, I will build the Church, and if anyone turns aside from the society of this confession, even though it may seem to him that he does great things, he will not belong to the building which is the Church.”[“Homily 1.16, After Epiphany, “Homilies on the Gospels Book I, 163] ]




HA, HA, HA... ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NO STATEMENT HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER. NO, NO, NO... NOTHING AT ALL. ACTUALLY ST. BEDE SIMPLY ADMONISHES THE FAITHFUL TO REMAIN UNDER THE CONFESSION OF PETER. SINCE THE ORTHODOX CHURCHES SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM THE CONFESSION OF PETER THEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH.




THE GREAT ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM REBUKES YOU:




"(Peter) The first of the Apostles, the foundation of the Church, the coryphaeus of the choir of disciples." John Chrysostom, Ad eos qui scandalizati 17(ante A.D. 407).




SEE, ST. PETER IS THE FIRST OF THE APOSTLES AND THE FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. IF I WILL BELIEVE YOU THEN ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM WILL BECOME A LIAR. BUT HE IS NOT THEREFORE IT IS YOU WHO IS THE... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... HA, HA, HA...



[St. John Chrysostom


St. John Chrysostom: “'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church'; that is, on the faith of his confession”[St. John, Homily 53 on St. Matthew].]




AGAIN, THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION. IF THE CHURCH IS BUILT ON THE CONFESSION OF PETER THEN THE CONFESSION OF PETER IS THE GREATEST CONFESSION OF ALL. SO, WHY GO TO CONSTANTINOPLE OR MOSCOW... I WILL PREFER THE SEE OF PETER WHERE THE TRUE CONFESSION IS. HE, HE, HE...




NO STATEMENT HERE THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER. HE, HE, HE...




[St. John Chrysostom: “He speaks from this time lowly things, on His way to His passion, that He might show His humanity. For He that hath built His Church upon Peter's confession, and has so fortified it, that ten thousand dangers and deaths are not to prevail over it...”[St. John Chrysostom, Homily 82.3 on St. Matthew]]




IMAGINE, ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM KEEPS ON EXALTING ST. PETER AND HE HARDLY MENTIONS ANDREW OR MARK. HA, HA, HA... ST. PETER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL APOSTLES. HE, HE, HE... AND HERE IS ANOTHER QUOTE FROM ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM:




“Peter, that head of the Apostles, the first in the Church, the friend of Christ, who received revelation not from man but from the Father...this Peter, and when I say Peter, I mean that unbroken Rock, the unshaken foundation, the great Apostle, the first of the disciples, the first called, the first to obey.” John Chrysostom, De Eleemosyna, 3:4 (ante A.D. 407).




HA, HA, HA... PETER IS THE FIRST AND THE HEAD OF THE APOSTLES. HE IS THE UNSHAKEN FOUNDATION. HA, HA, HA... SEE, YOU ARE HIDING THINGS FROM US. BUT YOUR QUOTES ARE SUPPORTIVE OF US. HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR.



[Pope St. Leo the Great comments on the words: “Upon this Rock I will build My Church and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it:


“Upon this firmness, He says, I shall raise My Temple, and it will rise upon the steadfastness of this Faith, and the loftiness of My Church shall mingle with the heavens. The gates of hades shall not master this profession (of faith); nor shall the bonds of death bind it. For these words are the words of life, and as they raise those who confess them up to heaven, so they plunge those that deny them down to hell.” [Sermon 83(2), P. L. 54 (col. 429), in FC, 93:357; Toal, II:267, 268]]




HA, HA, HA... THERE IS NOTHING HERE THAT STATES 'THE CHURCH IS NOT BUILT ON PETER'. NOTHING AT ALL. YOU ARE HALLUCINATING.



[NOTE: Pope St. Leo the Great reads Matthew 16 as confirming that the Orthodox or right-believing Church and Profession of Faith shall never fail, not the orthodoxy of whoever holds the Roman episcopate.]




O NO, NO, NO... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE ABOVE STATEMENT THAT REJECTS THE ROMAN EPISCOPATE. NOTHING AT ALL. YOU ARE BASING YOUR OPINION ON LIES AND DECEIT. LET ME GIVE YOU PROPER CITATIONS:




“If Paul, the herald of the truth, the trumpet of the Holy Ghost, hastened to the great Peter in order that he might carry from him the desired solution of difficulties to those at Antioch who were in doubt about living in conformity with the law, much more do we, men insignificant and small, hasten to your apostolic see in order to receive from you a cure for the wounds of the churches. For every reason it is fitting for you to hold the first place, inasmuch as your See is adorned with many privileges.” Theodoret of Cyrus, To Pope Leo, Epistle 113 (A.D. 449).




SEE, THEODORET RECOGNIZES THAT POPE LEO AND HIS SEE IS THE FIRST BECAUSE IT IS THE SEE OF PETER. HE ALSO DEBUNKS YOUR CLAIM ABOUT ST. PAUL'S INTENTION IN MEETING ST. PETER.




“We exhort you, honourable brother, to submit yourself in all things to what has been written by the blessed Bishop of Rome, because St. Peter, who lives and presides in his see, gives the true faith to those who seek it. For our part, for the sake of peace and the good of the faith, we cannot judge questions of doctrine without the consent of the Bishop of Rome.” Peter Chrysologus, Epistle 25 of Leo from Peter (A.D. 449).




LOOK, THE BISHOP OF ROME POSSESSES THE AUTHORITY OF PETER. AND ST. PETER CHRYSOLOGUS REFERS TO POPE ST. LEO THE GREAT NOT TO THE PATRIARCH OF CONSTANTINOPLE. HA, HA, HA...




AND FROM POPE ST. LEO THE GREAT HIMSELF:



“Blessed Peter preserving in the strength of the Rock, which he has received, has not abandoned the helm of the Church, which he under took...And so if anything is rightly done and rightly decreed by us, if anything is won from the mercy of God by our daily supplications, it is of his work and merits whose power lives and whose authority prevails in his See...to him whom they know to be not only the patron of this See, but also primate of all bishops. When therefore...believe that he is speaking whose representative we are:..” Pope Leo the Great, Sermon 3:3-4 (A.D. 442).




HA, HA, HA... THE POWER AND AUTHORITY OF PETER PREVAILS IN HIS SEE. AND THE BISHOP OF ROME IS THE PRIMATE OF ALL BISHOPS. HA, HA, HA...



[St. Gregory the Great


St. Gregory the Great: “And therefore, beloved brother,...remember that system of doctrine of which the chief of all the Apostles, the blessed Peter, laid the foundation ...As I have said, the Rock (petra) of the catholic Faith, from which the blessed Apostle Peter [Petrus] derived his name at the Lord's hands, rejects every trace of either heresy (Nestorianism or Monophysitism)”[St. Gregory the Great, Letter CXIX. To Maximus, Bishop of Antioch, by the Hand of Marian the Presbyter, and Olympius the Deacon; Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers Series II Volume XII.]




HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE VERY DESPERATE. YOU ARE A FOOL. IMAGINE, IN THAT QUOTE ST. GREGORY THE GREAT ACTUALLY REFERS TO ST. PETER AS THE CHIEF OF ALL THE APOSTLES. IT TOTALLY REFUTE YOUR CLAIM THAT PAUL OR JAMES IS EQUAL WITH PETER. HA, HA, HA...



[St. Maximus the Confessor


St. Maximus the Confessor: "Christ the Lord called that Church the Catholic Church which maintains the true and saving confession of the Faith. It was for this confession that He called Peter blessed, and He declared that He would found His Church upon this confession.”[quoted in Pope Anastasius (the Librarian), The Life of Our Holy Father St. Maximus the Confessor (Boston: Holy Transfiguration, 1982), pp. 60-62]




HA, HA, HA... ST. MAXIMUS TESTIFIED THAT THE LORD CALLED THE CHURCH - THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. SO, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MAINTAINS THE SAVING FAITH. MEANING THE ORTHODOX CHURCH THEN DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE TRUE FAITH BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE OR SEPARATED FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HA, HA, HA... BESIDES, IT IS PETER WHOM THE LORD JESUS CHOSE TO CALL BLESSED. HA, HA, HA... THIS QUOTE IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION NOT AT ALL FAVORING CONSTANTINOPLE AND MOSCOW. O NO, NO, NO...




TO MAKE YOU HAPPY HERE IS THE DECLARATION OF THE COUNCIL OF CHALCEDON:




“Wherefore the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome, through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the thrice blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the rock and foundation of the Catholic Church, and the foundation of the orthodox faith...” Council of Chalcedon, Session III (A.D. 451).




HA, HA, HA... SEE HOW YOU CRUMBLE. OUR POPE IS MOST HOLY AND MOST BLESSED... ARCHBISHOP OF THE GREAT AND ELDER ROME. THEN ST. PETER IS THRICE BLESSED AND ALL-GLORIOUS - ROCK AND FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. HE IS ALSO THE FOUNDATION OF THE ORTHODOX FAITH. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE FAKE ORTHODOX BECAUSE YOU HAVE ABANDONED PETER.




“For the extremities of the earth, and all in every part of it who purely and rightly confess the Lord, look directly towards the most holy Roman Church and its confession and faith, as it were a sun of unfailing light, awaiting from it the bright radiance of our fathers, according to what the six inspired and holy Councils have purely and piously decreed, declaring most expressly the symbol of faith. For from the coming down of the Incarnate Word among us, all the churches in every part of the world have possessed that greatest church alone as their base and foundation, seeing that, according to the promise of Christ Our Savior, the gates of hell do never prevail against it, that it possesses the Keys of right confession and faith in Him, that it opens the true and only religion to such as approach with piety, and shuts up and locks every heretical mouth that speaks injustice against the Most High.” Maximus the Confessor, Opuscula theologica et polemica (A.D. 650).


[Augustine of Hippo


Saint Augustine of Hippo, considered the greatest of all the pre-Scholastic Fathers by the Roman Catholic Church, yet also refutes the Papal interpretation,]




LET ME SEE IF YOUR QUOTES WILL DEFEND YOUR LIES. HE, HE, HE...



[saying:



"Christ said to Peter....I will build you upon Myself...Those who wish to be built upon men say, 'I am of Paul, I am of Apollos, I am of Cephas.' However, those who did not wish to be built upon Peter but upon the Rock say, I am of Christ"(Augustine, Retractions, 13th Sermon)]




WHERE IS THE REFUTATION THERE? ST. AUGUSTINE IS SIMPLY TELLING THAT WE SHOULD PUT OUR TRUST ABOVE ALL TO GOD AND NOT TO ANY MAN. IF YOU ARE REALLY HONEST WITH THAT INTERPRETATION THEN YOU WILL ALSO REJECT THE CLAIM OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND MOSCOW. CONSTANTINOPLE IS BUT FOUNDED BY CONSTANTINE. IT WAS BYZANTIUM PREVIOUSLY. BUT ROME WAS NOT FOUNDED BY CONSTANTINE, ROME IS ROME LONG BEFORE CONSTANTINE. IT WAS FOUNDED BY GOD WHO ORDERED ST. PAUL TO GO TO ROME AND INSPIRED ST. PETER TO PREACH AND DIE IN THE CITY.



[Augustine of Hippo: “In Peter, which means Rocky, we see our attention drawn to the Rock. Now the apostle Paul says about the former people, 'They drank from the spiritual rock that was following them; but the rock was Christ' (1 Cor 10:4). So this disciple is called Rocky from the Rock, like a Christian is from Christ. Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be understood. Christ, you see, built His Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the Rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer" (John Rotelle, O.S.A., Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993), Sermons, Volume III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327).]




AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXALTATION OF ST. PETER. THE LORD BUILT THE CHURCH ON CONFESSION OF PETER AND NOT ON CONFESSION OF ANY OTHER. THUS IF ONE IS NOT UNITED WITH THE FAITH OF PETER ONE IS OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. HA, HA, HA...




ENOUGH OF YOUR LIES.




HERE IS OUR QUOTES FROM ST. AUGUSTINE:




“Among these [apostles] Peter alone almost everywhere deserved to represent the whole Church. Because of that representation of the Church, which only he bore, he deserved to hear ‘I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven’” (Sermons 295:2 [A.D. 411]).




“Some things are said which seem to relate especially to the apostle Peter, and yet are not clear in their meaning unless referred to the Church, which he is acknowledged to have represented in a figure on account of the primacy which he bore among the disciples. Such is ‘I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,’ and other similar passages. In the same way, Judas represents those Jews who were Christ’s enemies” (Commentary on Psalm 108 1 [A.D. 415]).



“Who is ignorant that the first of the apostles is the most blessed Peter?” (Commentary on John 56:1 [A.D. 416]).




WHO IS IGNORANT THAT THE FIRST OF THE APOSTLES IS THE MOST BLESSED PETER? HA, HA, HA... I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER JUST LOOK AT THE MIRROR.



[The doors of Holy Orthodoxy are open wide and an invitation is extended to come and see.]




YOUR DOOR IS THE DOOR OF HERESY. THE DOOR OF THE TRUE CHURCH AND TRUE DOCTRINE IS IN THE CONFESSION OF PETER... IN THE SEE OF PETER. THAT IS THE MOST NOBLE SEE - THE GREAT CHURCH OF ROME.




Cyprian of Carthage
“The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.’ . . . On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).




YOU HAVE DESERTED THE CHAIR OF PETER. WE ARE NO FOOLS TO JOIN THE LIKES OF YOU. WE ARE ON THE ROCK ESTABLISHED BY JESUS AND YOU ENTERED THE GATES OF HELL.




[ Examine her Faith, her worship, her history, her commitment to Christ, her love for God the Father, her communion with the Holy Spirit, her Mystery.]




WE FOUND YOU HERETICAL AND ROTTEN TO THE CORE. THERE IS NO UNITY TO SPEAK OF, STERILE IN ADMINISTRATION AND LIGATED IN CONCILIAR AUTHORITY. STAGNANT IN TOTALITY. FOND OF AESTHETICS BUT POOR IN CHARITABLE WORKS.




YOU ARE NOTHING IN COMPARISON WITH THE SEE OF ROME - THE CHAIR OF PETER - THE FIRST OF ALL THE APOSTLES.




[She has kept the "faith once delivered unto the saints" free from the distortions of human innovations.]




ON THE CONTRARY IT IS YOU WHO HAVE DISTORTED IT. THE VILEST OF HERETICS CAME FROM YOUR MIDST. NESTORIUS THE HERESIARCH ONCE SAT AT THE CHAIR OF CONSTANTINOPLE.




[Man-made doctrines have never found their way into the Orthodox Church, since she has no necessary association in history with the name of one single father or theologian.]




THE TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT BASED ON A SINGLE THEOLOGIAN YOUR 7 COUNCILS BECAME UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED BECAUSE THE ROMAN CHURCH APPROVED AND ACCEPTED THEM AND WE ARE GUIDED BY MORE ECUMENICAL COUNCILS AFTERWARD WHILE YOUR TEACHINGS ARE STAGNANT TO WHERE WE LEFT YOU A THOUSAND YEARS AGO. THE SEE OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND MOSCOW ARE MAN-MADE WHILE THE ROMAN CHURCH IS BIBLICAL AND APOSTOLIC IN ORIGIN.




Peter Chrysologus
“We exhort you in every respect, honorable brother, to heed obediently what has been written by THE MOST BLESSED POPE OF THE CITY OF ROME for blessed Peter, who lives and presides in his own see, provides the truth of faith to those who seek it. For we, by reason of our pursuit of peace and faith, cannot try cases on the faith without the consent of the bishop of Rome” (Letters 25:2 [A.D. 449]).




[ Come home to the Faith of Peter and Paul!]




THE BLESSED COUNCIL OF CHALCEDON SHOUTS EXACTLY WHERE THE FAITH OF PETER AND PAUL IS:




Council of Chalcedon
“After the reading of the foregoing epistle [The Tome of Leo], the most reverend bishops cried out: ‘This is the faith of the fathers! This is the faith of the apostles! So we all believe! Thus the orthodox believe! Anathema to him who does not thus believe! Peter has spoken thus through Leo! . . . This is the true faith! Those of us who are orthodox thus believe! This is the faith of the Fathers!’” (Acts of the Council, session 2 [A.D. 451]).




OUR FAITH IS THE FAITH ARISING FROM THE CHAIR OF PETER. YOUR SEE OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND OF MOSCOW ARE BASTARD SEES IN COMPARISON WITH THE SEE OF PETER IN ROME.




WE INVITE YOU TO RETURN TO THE SEE OF PETER BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR YOUR SOUL.


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