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i was just curious and a bit alarmed by this statement :
Fr. Abe said :
[4. Bilang parusa sila ay hindi na pinayagan sa langit. Sa halip itinapon sa lupa kung saan dinaya nila ang unang Tao na si Adan at Eba at ang buong sanlibutan.]
meron po bang verse that supports this?
yung itinapon niya si Satanas sa Lupa..
i find it hard to believe that GOD, which full of Love, esp. to man, that he gave His only Son..then..Sira rin pala nagtapon ng basurang si Satanas..
please enlighten me..thank you..
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[i was just curious and a bit alarmed by this statement : Fr. Abe said :
[4. Bilang parusa sila ay hindi na pinayagan sa langit. Sa halip itinapon sa lupa kung saan dinaya nila ang unang Tao na si Adan at Eba at ang buong sanlibutan.]
[meron po bang verse that supports this?]
SIEMPRE MERON! AT ANG TALATANG SUMUSUPORTA DIYAN AY VERY FAMOUS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[yung itinapon niya si Satanas sa Lupa..]
YES. WORD FOR WORD. LETRA POR LETRA. NARITO BASAHIN MONG MABUTI:
Revelation 12:7-9
7 At nagkaroon ng pagbabaka sa langit: si Miguel at ang kaniyang mga anghel ay nakipagbaka sa dragon; at ang dragon at ang kaniyang mga anghel ay nakipagbaka; 8 At hindi sila nanganalo, ni nasumpungan pa man ang kanilang dako sa langit. 9 At inihagis ang malaking dragon, ang matandang ahas, ang tinatawag na Diablo at Satanas, ang dumadaya sa buong sanglibutan; SIYA'Y INIHAGIS SA LUPA, AT ANG KANYANG MGA ANGHEL AY INIHAGIS NA KASAMA NIYA.
YOU SEE. THAT IS VERY CLEAR. SATAN IS FORMERLY AN ANGEL IN HEAVEN. HE REBELLED AGAINST GOD AND WAS DEFEATED IN HEAVENLY FIGHT WITH THE FORCES OF HEAVEN UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF ST. MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL. THE DEVIL WAS DEFEATED AND WAS THROWN INTO THE EARTH TOGETHER WITH HIS ANGELS.
THE KING JAMES VERSION USED 'EARTH' AND THE 4 YEAR EARLIER CATHOLIC BIBLE IN ENGLISH THE DOUAY-RHEIMS BIBLE USED 'EARTH' AS WELL. TALAGANG ITINAPON SA LUPA.
[i find it hard to believe that GOD, which full of Love, esp. to man, that he gave His only Son..then..Sira rin pala nagtapon ng basurang si Satanas..]
WELL, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT IS NOT MY PROBLEM. THAT IS THE BIBLICAL TEACHING AND THAT IS THE TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THAT STORY IS TOLD TO US SINCE CHILDHOOD: THAT LUCIFER WAS A FORMER ANGEL WHO TURNED TRAITOR TO GOD. ST. MICHAEL DEFEATED HIM AND WAS THROWN INTO EARTH.
IT GIVES US THE REASON WHY SATAN WAS PRESENT IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND DECEIVED OUR FIRST PARENTS.
OF COURSE THE GOOD GOD DIDN'T DO IT SO THAT ADAM AND EVE SHALL COMMIT SIN. IT WAS NOT A SET UP OR A PUNISHMENT. GOD SIMPLY ALLOWED SATAN TO TEMPT OUR FIRST PARENTS SO THAT GOD COULD TEST THEIR LOYALTY AND LOVE. GOD WANTS THEM TO LOVE HIM BY FREELY CHOOSING HIM OVER THE FLEETING THINGS OF THIS WORLD.
GOD DID IT BECAUSE HE GAVE US ENOUGH AMMUNITION AGAINST THE DEVIL BY HIS GRACE: THE BREATH OF THE SPIRIT, WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE, PERSONAL ENCOUNTER WITH HIM IN THE GARDEN AND HIS DIVINE WORDS DIRECTLY PREACHED TO THEM. UNFORTUNATELY OUR FIRST PARENTS DECIDED TO BELIEVE THE DEVIL RATHER THAN THE WORD OF GOD.
SIN ENTERED NOT BECAUSE GOD ALLOWED SATAN TO ENTER BUT BECAUSE OUR FIRST PARENTS AND ALL SINNERS CHOSE THE LOWER GOODS OF THE EARTH RATHER THAN THE SUPREME GOOD WHO IS GOD.
[please enlighten me..]
I HOPE THIS WILL HELP.[thank you..]
GOD BLESS YOU.
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