EXCHANGE WITH AN AGLIPAY 4 On Apostolic Succession

Sts. Timothy and Titus

 

 

Anonymous
said...

padre hindi pa po nasasagot ang aking katanungan.. maaari po bang
pakisagot ng malinaw.. kindly explain to us what is apostolic succession
biblical, theological, and historical.. salamat po.... ang pagkakaalam
ko kasi ang apostolic succesion ay hindi mismo galing kay christ, it's
from the apostle although Christ handed down the mission but it is not
christ who give apostolic succesion its the apostle Themselves.
Apostolic succesion is a succession of apostolic faith, apostolic
service and apostolic life and even the believers have apostolic
succesion how come that you are telling such as this. are you a
professor of theology? are you a teacher? are you an apostle to tell
such lies to christian? Christ handed down to us the mission to proclaim
the kingdom of God and the reign of God. not to destroy the unity that
Christ have been telling us a thousand years ago. in the time of Paul,
the pauline church system is charismatic. but there is no data of
validity and invalid succession. we christians take note father "WE
CHRISTIANS" not only the RC is Christians, did the bible of yours
telling that there is an invalid ordination or invalid apostolic
succession. there is not right? before you question other religions or
sect or before you judge others, you must research further.. thanks
father..

August 3, 2011 3:07 PM

 

 

Fr. Abe, CRS
said... 

 

[padre hindi pa po nasasagot ang aking katanungan.. maaari po bang pakisagot ng malinaw..]

IT
IS ALREADY ANSWERED. IT SO HAPPENED THAT IT DOES NOT CONFORM TO WHAT
YOU WANT O READ SO THAT YOU ARE IN A STATE OF DENIAL. HE HE HE... YOU
ARE FREE TO WAIT TILL KINGDOM COME LIKE THOSE WHO ARE STILL WAITING FOR
THEIR MESSIAH. HA HA HA...

[kindly explain to us what is apostolic succession biblical, theological, and historical.. salamat po....]

I
ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT IF YOU WANT SUCH YOU SHOULD NOT SEARCH FOR THEM
HERE IN THE BLOG. INSTEAD, VISIT THE SITE OF THE CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA
ONLINE. ANG HIRAP SA IYO E NAGHAHANAP KA NG PASKO SA BUWAN NG MAYO. YOU
HAVE VISITED A BLOG AND YOU ARE LOOKING FOR RESEARCH MATERIALS AND
SCHOLARLY ARTICLES. HEY, YOU ARE OUT OF PLACE AND OUT OF YOUR MIND. MY
SUGGESTION TO YOU IS "GET REAL".


[ang pagkakaalam ko kasi ang apostolic succesion ay hindi mismo galing kay christ,]

HA HA HA... THAT IS WHY YOU ARE WRONG AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE HERETICAL. HA HA HA..

APOSTOLIC
SUCCESSION ORIGINATED IN THE FACT THAT THE FATHER SENT THE SON AND THE
SON SENT FORTH THE HOLY SPIRIT UPON HIS APOSTLES BY WHICH HE HANDED THEM
AUTHORITY TO GOVERN THE CHURCH. AND THE AUTHORITY RECEIVED BY THE
APOSTLES FROM CHRIST HAS BEEN PASSED ON FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE OTHER
BY ORDINATION TO THE MINISTRY.

[it's from the apostle although
Christ handed down the mission but it is not christ who give apostolic
succesion its the apostle Themselves.]

HA HA HA... PART OF THE
MISSION GIVEN BY CHRIST IS THE HANDING ON OF AUTHORITY FROM THE APOSTLES
TO THEIR SUCCESSORS. THE APOSTLES WOULD NOT HAVE INVENTED THINGS SO
ESSENTIAL IN THE LIFE OF THE CHURCH WITHOUT BASIS ON THE TEACHINGS AND
INSTRUCTIONS OF THE DIVINE MASTER. THE FACT THAT THERE ARE 12 APOSTLES
AND UNDER THEN THERE WERE 70 DISCIPLES SHOW THAT THE LORD JESUS WILLED
TO HAVE A HIERARCHY IN THE CHURCH WITH HIM AS THE LORD AND PETER AS THE
FIRST AMONG THE APOSTLES.

THE APOSTLES LATER ON SIMPLY FOLLOWED WHAT THE DIVINE MASTER STARTED.


[Apostolic succesion is a succession of apostolic faith, apostolic
service and apostolic life and even the believers have apostolic
succesion]

YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND.

SUCCESSION OF
APOSTOLIC FAITH IS CALLED CATECHESIS AND APOSTOLIC INSTRUCTION.
APOSTOLIC SERVICE IS APOSTOLIC MISSION AND DIAKONIA.

EVEN
BELIEVERS HAVE APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION... HA HA HA... THAT IS TRUE IF
VIEWED BY THE FACT THAT THE BAPTIZED MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ARE GOVERNED
BY THE SUCCESSORS TO THE APOSTLES. BUT APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION REFERS TO
THE PASSING ON OF AUTHORITY IN THE CHURCH FROM THE APOSTLES TO THE
BISHOPS AND ON TO THE NEXT BISHOPS.

THE FACT THAT MANY BELIEVERS REJECT THE HIERARCHY IS A PROOF OF YOUR HALLUCINATORY CLAIM. 

[how come that you are telling such as this.]

I AM A ROMAN
CATHOLIC PRIEST AND I AM TEACHING THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE OF APOSTOLIC
SUCCESSION WHICH YOU ARE TRYING TO DISTORT WITH YOUR AGLIPAY HERESY.

[are you a professor of theology?]

WHETHER
I AM OR I AM NOT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. HOW DARE YOU ASK ME SUCH
QUESTIONS WHEN IN FACT YOU ARE AN ANONYMOUS AND HIDING HERETIC.

I AM SIMPLY A CATHOLIC PRIEST, MINISTER OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND TEACHER OF OUR FAITH.

[are you a teacher?]
 

OF COURSE. HOW ABOUT YOU? ARE YOU A BIRD? A PLANE? OR SUPERMAN?

ARE YOU A DOG OR A CAT? A PIG OR A HORSE? ARE YOU AN ALIEN OR HUMAN? HA HA HA....

[are you an apostle to tell such lies to christian?]

I AM A PRIEST OF THE APOSTOLIC ROMAN CHURCH CORRECTING THE STUPIDITY AND HERESY OF AN AGLIPAY HERETIC.


[Christ handed down to us the mission to proclaim the kingdom of God and the reign of God.]

CHRIST
HANDED IT TO THE APOSTLES WHO WERE OUR FIRST BISHOPS. YOURS IS NOT FROM
CHRIST BUT A BASTARD FAITH INVENTED BY GREGORIO AGLIPAY.

[not to destroy the unity that Christ have been telling us a thousand years ago.]

BY
JOINING THE AGLIPAY CHURCH YOU ALREADY ADULTERATED THAT UNITY. YOU ARE
NO LONGER PART OF THAT UNITY BY ABANDONING IT. YOU BELONG TO A NEWLY
INVENTED SECT WHICH IS SCHISMATIC AND HERETICAL.


[in the time of Paul, the pauline church system is charismatic.]

HUH?
EXCUSE ME. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY CHARISMATIC? IS YOUR CHURCH CHARISMATIC?
HE HE HE... YOUR CHURCH IS DEMONIC NOT CHARISMATIC. SCHISMATIC NOT
CHARISMATIC. HERETIC NOT CHARISMATIC.

[but there is no data of validity and invalid succession.]

NOT
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE IT YOU CAN TELL ME THAT THERE IS NONE. THERE IS
IN FACT. THE SUCCESSION OF THE BISHOPS OF ROME FROM PETER TO BENEDICT
XVI IS WELL RECORDED AND ATTESTED IN HISTORY. YOURS BEING A BASTARD
CHURCH HAS NO RECORD OF THAT SORT.

[we christians take note father "WE CHRISTIANS" not only the RC is Christians,]

YOU
ARE HERETICAL AND SCHISMATIC CHRISTIANS. IT MEANS YOUR FAITH IS
ADULTERATED. EVEN YOUR LITURGY IS PURE IMITATION AND YOUR THEOLOGY
PROTESTANTIZED. CATHOLIC IN LOOKS BUT PROTESTANT IN THINKING. YOU ARE
LIKE AN ECCLESIAL FRANKENTEIN MONSTER.

[did the bible of yours telling that there is an invalid ordination or invalid apostolic succession.]

THIS IS ILLOGICAL AND STUPID.

IT IS NOT THE BIBLE THAT SPEAKS WHICH IS INVALID OR VALID ORDINATION BUT THE BISHOPS IN COMMUNION WITH THE SUCCESSOR OF PETER.



[there is not right? before you question other religions or sect or
before you judge others, you must research further.. thanks father..]

THERE
IS NO NEED FOR FURTHER RESEARCH TO KNOW THAT THE AGLIPAY CHURCH IS
INVENTED BY GREGORIO AGLIPAY RECENTLY AND HAS NO APOSTOLIC FOUNDATION.
YOU ARE ADVOCATING SUCH THEOLOGY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE AN ALIBI FOR YOUR
DEFICIENCIES. SORRY FOR YOU.

O YOU ARE WELCOME. 

August 3, 2011 9:23 PM