Wednesday, September 29, 2010

EXCHANGE WITH SSPX FOLLOWER, Part 7 Refuting The Illicit bishop de Galarreta

The Word of the Lord protects and upholds Peter and His Office. But no promise is given to Lefebvre and his schismatic minions. WE ARE ONE WITH PETER AND WE REJECT THE REBELLION OF LEFEBVRE THE OLD FOOL.


Anonymous said...

Bishop de Galarreta's arguments in favour of the doctrinal discussions currently taking place between Rome and the Society of St Pius X.



this was once argued that there is little hope of any agreement coming out of the discussions, on the grounds that you cannot mix oil and water. If you shake furiously a bottle containing both, the oil and water will mingle for as long as the shaking goes on, but as soon as it stops, the oil and water separate again. It is in their nature. Being lighter, oil is bound to float on top of water.



It is likewise in the nature of the true Church's divine doctrine and neo-modernism's humanistic doctrine to be able to mingle but not mix. The "letter" or documents of Vatican II made them mingle, but not even Vatican II's masterpieces of mingling, e.g. "Dignitatis Humanae" on religious liberty, could get the two to mix. The aftermath of Vatican II, in accordance with its "spirit", demonstrated this. That "spirit of the Council" is still tearing the Church apart. Benedict XVI's "hermeneutic of continuity" is a recipe for continuing to shake furiously, or should we say resolutely, but the religion of God and the religion of man will still not mix. They still fly apart.



Then why did some quote Bishop de Galarreta favouring the discussions ? For two reasons. Firstly, as to the discussions' main effect, in none of his arguments - read them carefully - did he expect or hope that oil and water can be made to mix. On the contrary, when he said that he looked forward to the discussions being terminated in the spring of next year, he surely implied that the shaking of the bottle should not go on indefinitely, especially if that were to foster in anybody the illusion that oil and water can eventually be made to mix. Secondly, all of his arguments mentioned side-effects of the discussions, whereby the contacts which they bring about between Rome and the SSPX act as anti-freeze, both in the radiator of Romans wishing to freeze off the SSPX, and in the radiator of SSPX wishing to freeze off Rome.



others has the honour of agreeing with his colleague that Rome-SSPX contacts are good for the Universal Church, so long as there is no question of the SSPX failing in its Providential mission of helping to guard from today's Rome the Deposit of the Faith for when tomorrow's Rome will come back to its Catholic senses. "Heaven and earth shall pass away", says Our Lord, "but my words shall not pass away" (Lk.XXI,33).




Kyrie eleison.




Fr. Abe, CRS said...


[Bishop de Galarreta's arguments in favour of the doctrinal discussions currently taking place between Rome and the Society of St Pius X.]




AND WHO IS THIS CALDERETA? I DO NOT RECOGNIZE HIS AUTHORITY AND HIS BISHOPRIC UNLESS HE IS UNITED WITH PETER AND THE BISHOPS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. I REJECT THE AUTHORITY OF THIS TRAITOR.




OUTSIDE THE CHURCH ARE THE HERETICAL AND SCHISMATIC DOGS, FILTHY AND MALICIOUS HERETICS WHO ARE ATTACKERS OF THE MOST HOLY CHURCH OF GOD. SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THE EXCOMMUNICATED LEFEBVRE OF CONDEMNABLE MEMORY. VICIOUS IN HIS REBELLION AND VICIOUS IN HIS VILENESS.



[this was once argued that there is little hope of any agreement coming out of the discussions, on the grounds that you cannot mix oil and water.]




YOU ARE THE OIL AND WE ARE THE WATER. BUT THE HOLY WATER AND THE HOLY OIL BOTH BELONGS TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH NOT TO THE SCHISMATICS LIKE YOU.




[If you shake furiously a bottle containing both, the oil and water will mingle for as long as the shaking goes on, but as soon as it stops, the oil and water separate again.]




HA, HA, HA... IT MEANS THAT WE CAN NO LONGER BE UNITED AGAIN. SO BE IT. GOOD RIDDANCE. SAYONARA! AU REVOIR! FAREWELL TO THE CONCUBINE.




[It is in their nature.]




THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH CAN NEVER BE IN COMMUNION WITH THE HERETICS AND SCHISMATICS LIKE YOU. THE JERUSALEM IN HEAVEN IS THE MOTHER OF ALL WHILE YOU BELONG TO WHORE OF BABYLON.




[Being lighter, oil is bound to float on top of water.]




THE WATER IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BUT THE OIL WHICH IS FILTHY IS THE SSPX. THEY TRY TO DECEIVE PEOPLE BY CLAIMING TO BE CATHOLICS BUT SOON THE SENSUS FIDEI WILL FIND THEIR VENOM AND HYPOCRISY ON THE SURFACE.




[It is likewise in the nature of the true Church's divine doctrine and neo-modernism's humanistic doctrine to be able to mingle but not mix.]




THAT IS WHY THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH ARE NEVER MIXED WITH THESE THINGS. THE CHURCH IS ALWAYS AND CONSTANTLY PURE IN ITS DOCTRINE.




[ The "letter" or documents of Vatican II made them mingle, but not even Vatican II's masterpieces of mingling, e.g. "Dignitatis Humanae" on religious liberty, could get the two to mix.]




DIGNITATIS HUMANAE IS FREE FROM NEO MODERNISM. IT IS FILLED WITH BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES OF LOVE OF NEIGHBOR AND RESPECT OF OTHER PEOPLE. UNLIKE THE MIND OF LEFEBVRE WHO WAS SO VILE, CAPRICIOUS, MALICIOUS AND PHARISAICAL IN HIS INTERPRETATION OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH.




FREEDOM COMES FROM GOD. SLAVERY FROM THE DEVIL. THAT IS WHY WE UPHELD RELIGIOUS LIBERTY BECAUSE WE OPPOSE RELIGIOUS SLAVERY. WHERE THE SPIRIT OF GOD IS THERE IS FREEDOM. IT MEANS THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ABSENT IN THE HERESY OF LEFEBVRE BECAUSE IT REJECTS EVEN THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHT OF MEN... TO FREELY CHOOSE HIS RELIGION.




THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES THAT IT IS SHE WHICH IS THE ONE AND TRUE CHURCH BUT SHE STILL RESPECTS OTHERS WHO DISAGREE WITH HER. LEFEBVRE IS SO EVIL THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS. HE WANTED TO IMPOSE HIS RELIGION ON ALL, LIKE WILLIAMSON. THUS, THEY ARE BOTH FOOLS DUE TO SEPARATION FROM THE SEE OF PETER.



[The aftermath of Vatican II, in accordance with its "spirit", demonstrated this.]




2 Corinthians 3:17 [Douay-Rheims Bible] "Now the Lord is a Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is LIBERTY."




SO, ST. PAUL ONLY CONFIRMED THAT VATICAN II IS FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD. THEN LEFEBVRE AS A REBEL IS FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL.




WHEREVER THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS THERE IS LIBERTY!




VATICAN II UPHELD RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. WHILE THE LEFEBVRISTS HATE RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. TRULY DEMONIC THIS CULT IS.




[That "spirit of the Council" is still tearing the Church apart.]




HA, HA, HA... THE SSPX IS THE ONE TEARING THE CHURCH APART BUT THEY FAILED TO DO SO. LIKE LUCIFER WHO SUCCEEDED IN DECEIVING THE MINORITY OF ANGELS ONLY A HANDFUL JOINED LEFEBVRE. NOT EVEN 1 PERCENT AND MANY OF THEM HAS RETURNED ALREADY. HA, HA, HA...




[Benedict XVI's "hermeneutic of continuity" is a recipe for continuing to shake furiously, or should we say resolutely, but the religion of God and the religion of man will still not mix. They still fly apart.]




THERE IS NO NEED FOR THE POPE TO SHAKE BECAUSE VATICAN II IS ALREADY PROMULGATED AND FINISHED. IT IS LIKE A BREAD THAT IS COOKED AND PREPARED. WE ARE MERELY ENJOYING ITS BOUNTIFUL FRUITS. ONLY THE SSPX ARE UNHAPPY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PRACTICE RELIGIOUS SLAVERY.



[Then why did some quote Bishop de Galarreta favouring the discussions ?]




WHO IS THIS BISHOP CALDERETA? I DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY SSPX BISHOP. THEY ARE NOT MY BISHOP. I DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY TRAITOR TO THE SEE OF PETER.




[For two reasons. Firstly, as to the discussions' main effect, in none of his arguments - read them carefully - did he expect or hope that oil and water can be made to mix.]




ONLY AN IDIOT WILL ASK THAT QUESTION. TELL HIM TO COME TO ME AND I WILL POUR HIM THOSE OIL RIGHT ON HIS HEAD AND WITH A TORCH LIGHTED NEARBY. TELL HIM NOT TO WORRY BECAUSE I WILL ALSO POUR WATER AFTER I THREW HIM THE TORCH. HA, HA, HA...




THESE QUESTIONS ARE MADE FOR MELODRAMATICS. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SSPX THEY ARE FULL OF DELUSIONS. THEY FAIL TO SEE REALITY OVER THEIR ILLUSIONS.



[On the contrary, when he said that he looked forward to the discussions being terminated in the spring of next year, he surely implied that the shaking of the bottle should not go on indefinitely, especially if that were to foster in anybody the illusion that oil and water can eventually be made to mix.]




TELL HIM TO GO TO THE MOON. MAYBE IN THE OUTER SPACE HE CAN MIX THEM. HA, HA, HA... ON OUR PART, WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO JOIN HIM IN HIS FOOLISH SHAKING AND MIXING. WE ARE BUSY DOING SOMETHING ELSE. WE HAVE NO TIME TO LISTEN TO WACKY OLD FOOLS MIXING WATER AND OIL.




[Secondly, all of his arguments mentioned side-effects of the discussions, whereby the contacts which they bring about between Rome and the SSPX act as anti-freeze, both in the radiator of Romans wishing to freeze off the SSPX, and in the radiator of SSPX wishing to freeze off Rome.]




HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE TALKING LIKE A REFRIGERATOR. WHAT A REFRIGERATED THEOLOGY. HA, HA, HA...




THE ROMAN CHURCH WOULD NOT BOTHER TO FREEZE SSPX. WE RATHER LET THEM ROT IN THE SUNLIGHT.



[others has the honour of agreeing with his colleague that Rome-SSPX contacts are good for the Universal Church, so long as there is no question of the SSPX failing in its Providential mission of helping to guard from today's Rome the Deposit of the Faith for when tomorrow's Rome will come back to its Catholic senses.]




HA, HA, HA... YOUR YESTERDAY'S ROME IS THE ROME OF TODAY. THE ROME OF THE FUTURE WILL BE THE ROME OF TODAY AS WELL.




WOE TO YOU BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO BE TRAITORS TO THIS ONE AND ONLY ROME.




["Heaven and earth shall pass away", says Our Lord, "but my words shall not pass away" (Lk.XXI,33).]




AND THE WORD OF THE LORD IS THAT "YOU ARE PETER AND UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT."




WE BELONG TO PETER AND YOU BELONG TO THE GATE OF HELL.




[Kyrie eleison.]




MAY THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD GRANT YOU THE GRACE TO RETURN TO PETER.


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