BAGONG PAKIKIPAGTALASTASAN HINGGIL SA 'SOLA SCRIPTURA' O 'BIBLE ALONE' DOCTRINE, Part 3

The Apostle Paul preaching on the Ruins by Giovanni Paolo Pannini

Anonymous said...

the bible is sufficient... TAMA..=D

question lang sa oral/scared tradition..

how can we be sure na hindi POLLUTED yung sacred tradition?

what is the check and balance? if my additional, alterations ito?

thank you po..

January 6, 2011 7:00 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[the bible is sufficient... TAMA..=D]

TAMA.

[question lang sa oral/scared tradition..]

OK.

[how can we be sure na hindi POLLUTED yung sacred tradition?]

HINDI POLLUTED ANG SACRED-ORAL TRADITION KASI HINDI POLLUTED ANG BIBLE. ANG BIBLE AY BUNGA NG INSPIRASYON NG HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH ORAL TRADITION. SI JESUS AY HINDI NAGSULAT KUNDI NANGARAL AT MARAMING TAON ANG LUMIPAS BAGO NAGSULAT ANG MGA APOSTOL. ORAL TRADITION MUNA BAGO ANG ENSCRIPTED TRADITION WHICH IS THE BIBLE.

ANG BIBLE AY GALING SA ORAL TRADITION KAYA KUNG MALI ANG PINANGGALINGAN, MALI RIN ANG BUNGA.

PERO ANG BIBLIA NG MGA PROTESTANTE AT MGA BORN AGAIN, ADD AT IGLESIA NI MANALO AY "POLLUTED BIBLES" KASI BINAWASAN NILA ANG BIBLE NG 7 BOOKS. SI MARTIN LUTHER NGA E SINAKSAK PA ANG PHRASE THE "FAITH ALONE" SA EPISTLE TO THE ROMANS. KAYA ANG BIBLE NILA AY POLLUTED.

[what is the check and balance? if my additional, alterations ito?]

THE CHECK AND BALANCE IS THE CHURCH WHICH IS THE PILLAR AND GROUND OF TRUTH. THE CHURCH IS THE BODY OF CHRIST. THE WORD OF GOD FLOWS NATURALLY AND PURELY AND GENUINELY OUT OF THE BODY OF CHRIST. HINDI SA IBANG SECTA NA INIMBENTO LANG NI SORIANO, MANALO, EDDIE VILLANUEVA AT MGA HINAYUPAK NA PASTOR NA GUSTO LANG KUMITA PARA PANG TUITION NG KANILANG MGA ANAK AT PANG MAKE UP NG KANILANG MGA ASAWA.

WALANG ALTERATIONS KASI ANG LAHAT NG ARAL NG SANTA IGLESIA AY BIBLICAL AT APOSTOLIC.

[thank you po..]

WELCOME.

January 6, 2011 8:30 PM

Anonymous said...

so kapag sinabi ng Church na ORal tradition ang isang baga ok na yon?

basta sinabi ng Church kahit walang basihan ok na?

my point is yung oral tradition kumbaga noon ok pa..kasi buhay pa ang mga apostol..at tung mga 1st century christians.

PAANO KAYO NAKAKASIGURADO NA THROUGHOUT CHURCH HISTORY..WALANG DAGDAG..WALANG BAWAS..WALANG IMBENTO SA ORAL TRADITIONS AS WE KNOW IT NOW??

how can you check that the traditions now were not polluted?

ano nga yung check and balance..??

wala?

basta maniwala nalang sa sabi ng CHurch.?? PERIOD?

January 7, 2011 10:07 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[so kapag sinabi ng Church na ORal tradition ang isang baga ok na yon?]

YOUR QUESTION BETRAYS IGNORANCE OF ORAL TRADITION. THE FACT THAT IT IS CALLED ORAL TRADITION, SACRED TRADITION OR APOSTOLIC TRADITION SHOWS THAT IT IS NOT A NEWLY INVENTED BELIEF LIKE THE SOLA SCRIPTURA AND SOLA FIDE OF MARTIN LUTHER WHICH HE DIABOLICALLY INVENTED IN THE 16TH CENTURY. RATHER ORAL TRADITION IS ALREADY BELIEVED AS A TRUTH OF FAITH BY THE CHURCH FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF HER EXISTENCE.

[basta sinabi ng Church kahit walang basihan ok na?]

KAYA NGA ORAL TRADITION E IBIG SABIHIN MAY BASEHAN. THE CHURCH HAS BEEN TEACHING IT FROM EVERSINCE. KUNG WALANG BASEHAN HINDI YON ORAL TRADITION. HALIMBAWA NG ARAL NA WALANG BASEHAN AT 'TRADITION OF MAN' AY ANG SOLA SCRIPTURA AT SOLA FIDE I MARTIN LUTHER.

[my point is yung oral tradition kumbaga noon ok pa..kasi buhay pa ang mga apostol..at tung mga 1st century christians.]

SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA KAPAG BUHAY PA ANG MGA APOSTOL AY OK ANG ORAL TRADITION SUBALIT PAG PATAY NA SILA AY HINDI NA PWEDE? IPINAGKATIWALA NGA NG MGA APOSTOL SA MGA HINIRANG NILANG SUSUNOD NA LIDER NG SANTA IGLESIA ANG APOSTOLIC TRADITION UPANG ITURO AT ALAGAAN:

"I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain THE TRADITIONS just as I handed them on to you." 1 Corinthians 11:2

DAHIL ANG APOSTOLIC TRADITION AY HANDED OVER HINDI ITO NAGTATAPOS LANG SA PANAHON NG MGA APOSTOLES.

[PAANO KAYO NAKAKASIGURADO NA THROUGHOUT CHURCH HISTORY..WALANG DAGDAG..WALANG BAWAS..WALANG IMBENTO SA ORAL TRADITIONS AS WE KNOW IT NOW??]

DAHIL KAPAG ANG ARAL NG SANTA IGLESIA AY NAPASUKAN NG MGA MALING ARAL IBIG SABIHIN ANG CHURCH AY NATALIKOD AT NAGAPI NG PWERSA NG KASAMAAN. YAN AY HINDI MAAARI SAPAGKAT ANG SANTA IGLESIA AY PINANGAKONG PO-PROTEKTAHAN NG PANGINOONG JESUS.

[how can you check that the traditions now were not polluted?]

THE CHURCH BEING THE PILLAR AND GROUND OF TRUTH IS THE INSTITUTION FOUNDED BY JESUS TO GUIDE THE FAITHFUL TO THE TRUTH. SO IT IS THE CHURCH THAT PRESERVES BOTH THE BIBLE AND THE ORAL TRADITION. IF THE ORAL TRADITION IS CONTAMINATED THEN THE BIBLE IS CONTAMINATED ALSO.

[ano nga yung check and balance..??]

ANG CHURCH NGA.

[wala?]

MERON NGA.

BINIGAY NA NGA NI CRISTO ANG CHURCH AS PILLAR AND GROUND OF TRUTH. KUNG AYAW MONG MANIWALA SA SANTA IGLESIA E ITURING MO ANG SARILI MONG HENTIL O PUBLICANO.

[basta maniwala nalang sa sabi ng CHurch.??]

HINDI 'BASTA' LANG IYON KASI GINAWA NI CRISTO ANG CHURCH NA 'PILLAR AND GROUND OF TRUTH'. BESIDES, THE CHURCH IS THE BODY OF CHRIST. THE BODY OF CHRIST IS THE REPOSITORY OF THE TRUE WORD OF CHRIST.

[PERIOD?]

HINDI PERIOD YAN KUNDI EXCLAMATION POINT. ANG BABAW MO NAMAN.

January 8, 2011 5:25 PM