Tuesday, January 11, 2011

BAGONG PAKIKIPAGTALASTASAN HINGGIL SA 'SOLA SCRIPTURA' O 'BIBLE ALONE' DOCTRINE, Part 9

The Apostles with the Blessed Virgin during the Pentecost


Kenston said...



Pasensya na po at di na po ako nagpakilala sa site nyo... maari nyo naman po tingnan yung site ko na nasa profile ko kung mas makakatulong, pero tingin ko po kahit di po ako magpakilala, entitled naman tyo lht ng respect kht mali man sa tingin nyo ung cnsbi ng iba... di naman po ata pwede na yung isang guro gnun magalit or magsbing 'bobo' ung mga estudyante niya dhl hndi lng cla magkaintindihan



Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[Pasensya na po at di na po ako nagpakilala sa site nyo...]




WALA KAMING PASENSIYA SA MGA GANYAN. DUWAG NAMAN TALAGA ANG MGA BORN AGAIN. SA BEREANS MAN O SA MGA FORUM E HINDI NAGPAPAKILALA. GUSTO LAGING ANONYMOUS. TINATAGO ANG KANILANG FELLOWSHIP PARA HINDI MABUSISI NG PUBLIKO ANG MGA KABULUKAN.



[maari nyo naman po tingnan yung site ko na nasa profile ko kung mas makakatulong,]




WELL, MABUTI NAMAN AT MERON KANG SITE. KASO ANONYMOUS PA RIN. NAGTATAGO KA PA RIN SA DILIM. AKALA KO BA MATAPANG ANG MGA BORN AGAIN HUMARAP PARA MAGPATUTUO. BAKIT IKAW AY NADUDUWAG ILABAS ANG IYONG SARILI? KINAHIHIYA MONG WALA SA BIBLIA ANG MGA ARAL NYO?




[pero tingin ko po kahit di po ako magpakilala, entitled naman tyo lht ng respect kht mali man sa tingin nyo ung cnsbi ng iba...]




BAKIT ANG MGA KAPATID BA NAMING KATOLIKO AY IGINALANG NINYONG MGA BORN AGAIN? DI BA BINABALASUBAS NINYO ANG FAITH NILA. KUNG ANO ANO ANG INAAKUSA NYO. LAGI NINYO KAMING INAATAKE NA UNBIBLICAL ANG DOCTRINE NAMIN NGAYONG SINASAGOT NAMIN KAYO E PARA KANG MAAMONG TUPA. PWEDE BA HINDI KAMI NAGPAPADALA SA HYPOCRITICAL STYLE MO. WE KNOW YOUR KIND AND YOUR WAYS. WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR STYLES AND YOUR CUNNING STRATEGIES.




[di naman po ata pwede na yung isang guro gnun magalit or magsbing 'bobo' ung mga estudyante niya dhl hndi lng cla magkaintindihan]




KUNG AYAW MONG MATAWAG NA BOBO GAMITIN MO ANG UTAK MO. TINAWAG KITANG BOBO DAHIL KABOBOHAN ANG BINIBIGAY MO SA AMIN. MAY BASEHAN AKO DAHIL ILLOGICAL AT CONTRADICTORIES ANG MGA CLAIMS MO. BIBLE ALONE LANG DAW TAPOS HINDI MO MAPATUNAYAN SA BIBLE ALONE ANG DOCTRINA MO. ANO YAN? E DI KATANGAHAN. PAGKAKALAT YAN NG KABOBOHAN. LA SALLISTA KA PA NAMAN TAPOS ANG HINA NG LOGIC MO. NAKAKAHIYA.



Kenston said...

Hindi naman po ako nakapagresearch tungkol po sa history. Ang mahalaga po ay Word po ni God. The Old Testament did not originate from the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church may have played a role in authenticating, but not in writing it. Does it really matter or affects Sola Scriptura? For a person whose intention is to destroy or protect sects, it matters. But for a Christian who trusted in the Gospel and who is in search for truth, there is much important and essential things to discuss and know.




I'm not angry at Catholics. I pray that they may know the truth. I'm against wrong teachings. I was once a Catholic, having read portions of the CCC, came from a Catholic school, and was even confirmed. I'm not so sensitive when people want to associate me with being a Catholic.



Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[Hindi naman po ako nakapagresearch tungkol po sa history.]




OBVIOUS NAMAN. HALATANG-HALATA KAYA IGNORANTE KA RIN SA HISTORY NG SOLA SCRIPTURA AT KUNG PAANO ITO INIMBENTO NI MARTIN LUTHER.



[Ang mahalaga po ay Word po ni God.]




THE WORD OF GOD IS NOT LIMITED TO THE BIBLE ONLY AND THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT THE WORD OF GOD IS THE ONLY THING IMPORTANT. THE BODY OF CHRIST - THE CHURCH IS ALSO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS THE PILLAR AND GROUND OF TRUTH.




[The Old Testament did not originate from the Catholic Church.]




THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ALSO THE ONE WHO DETERMINED THE CANON OF THE OLD TESTAMENT. THE OLD TESTAMENT ITSELF AND EVEN THE NEW TESTAMENT DIDN'T PROVIDE THE OFFICIAL LIST OF OLD TESTAMENT BOOKS. IT WAS THE BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHO DETERMINED IT. EVEN THE TERM OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT WERE FIRST APPLIED TO THE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE BY A CATHOLIC BISHOP, ST. IRENEUS OF LYONS.



[The Catholic Church may have played a role in authenticating, but not in writing it.]




THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PLAYED A ROLE IN WRITING IT BECAUSE STS. PETER AND PAUL, LUKE AND MARK AND OTHERS WERE LEADERS OF THE ROMAN CHURCH. PETER WAS OUR FIRST POPE AND BISHOP OF ROME. PAUL WROTE TO THE ROMANS AND WAS A ROMAN CITIZEN.




THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AUTHENTICATED THEM AND REJECTED THE FAKE GOSPELS AND WRITINGS. ALSO, THE SAME CATHOLIC CHURCH COMPILED THEM INTO ONE CODEX AND TRANSLATED THEM INTO ONE SINGLE LANGUAGE AND IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. WE WERE ALSO THE ONES WHO FIRST PRINTED THE BIBLE AND PUT CHAPTERS AND VERSES NUMBERING INTO THEM.




YOU AND YOUR FELLOWSHIP HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BIBLE AT ALL. SO IF YOU WILL DOWNGRADE THE ROLE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THE ROLE OF YOUR FELLOWSHIP OR SECT IN THE FORMATION OF THE BIBLE IS A PIECE OF SHIT IN COMPARISON WITH THE GREAT CONTRIBUTION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.



[Does it really matter or affects Sola Scriptura?]




OF COURSE IT DOES. IT SHOWS THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT SELF-AUTHENTICATING. IT NEEDS THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH TO AUTHENTICATE ITSELF. AND THE HOLY SPIRIT DIDN'T WRITE THE BIBLE DIRECTLY, INSTEAD, THE HOLY SPIRIT ALSO INSPIRED PARTICULAR PERSONS SUCH AS PETER AND PAUL, MARK AND MATTHEW, LUKE AND JOHN TO WRITE INFALLIBLY THE TRUTH OF FAITH. THE INSPIRATION OF GOD IS NOT LIMITED TO BIBLE ALONE, IT ALSO EXTENDS TO THE CHURCH AND TO THE AUTHORITIES OF THE CHURCH.




[For a person whose intention is to destroy or protect sects, it matters.]




FOR PERSONS WHO IS AFTER THE TRUTH IT MATTERS. IT AFFECTS SOLA SCRIPTURA. IT SHOWS THAT SOLA SCRIPTURA IS A FARCE. A HERETICAL TEACHING THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE AND BY THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH.




[But for a Christian who trusted in the Gospel and who is in search for truth, there is much important and essential things to discuss and know.]




IT ONLY SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT AFTER THE TRUTH AND THE GOSPEL BECAUSE THE GOSPEL DOES NOT TEACH BIBLE ALONE AND YOU ARE IMPOSING THE DOGMA OF LUTHER OVER THE TRUTH OF THE SCRIPTURES. YOU ARE ANTI-BIBLICAL AND FOR THAT YOUR SOUL IS IN DANGER.




[I'm not angry at Catholics.]




GOOD FOR YOU. I HOPE IT IS TRUE. HOW CAN I TRUST YOU? YOU KEEP ON SAYING THAT SOLA SCRIPTURA IS BIBLICAL BUT YOU CANNOT EVEN POINT OUT THE VERSE FOR IT. ANG TAONG WALANG BAIT SA SARILI AY HINDI KAPANI-PANIWALA.




[I pray that they may know the truth.]




WE KNOW THE TRUTH THAT SOLA SCRIPTURA IS NOT IN THE BIBLE AND THAT IT WAS AN INVENTED DOCTRINE BY MARTIN LUTHER. WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DEMONICALLY UPHELD THAT INVENTED DOCTRINE OF MARTIN LUTHER EVEN THOUGH YOU CANNOT FIND A SINGLE VERSE TO SUPPORT IT.




[I'm against wrong teachings.]




LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... HOW COME YOU ARE NOT REJECTING SOLA SCRIPTURA? IT IS NOT BIBLICAL. IT IS NOT TAUGHT BY THE BIBLE AND BY THE APOSTLES, MUCH MORE BY THE LORD JESUS.



[I was once a Catholic, having read portions of the CCC, came from a Catholic school, and was even confirmed.]




WE ARE GLAD TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE LEFT THE CHURCH. ONE STUPID GUY HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM OUR MIDST. THEN YOU WILL SPREAD YOUR STUPIDITY IN YOUR NEW FOUND RELIGION. HA, HA, HA... THAT IS WHY WE ARE NOW FEASTING ON YOUR ANSWERS. ACTUALLY YOUR LEAVING IS MORE A BLESSING FOR US.




[I'm not so sensitive when people want to associate me with being a Catholic.]




DEFINITELY YOU ARE NOT A CATHOLIC. NO CATHOLIC IS STUPID ENOUGH TO BE DECEIVED BY SOLA SCRIPTURA AS YOU DO. THAT FATE IS PROPER FOR THOSE CORRUPTED OF HERESIES... SO YOU ARE.


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