EXCHANGE WITH SSPX FOLLOWER, Part 10 The Success of Vatican II over SSPX

The all-embracing collonnade of St. Peter's Basilica

Anonymous said...

This has taught me one lesson about SSPX and sedevacantists: That sedevacantists are more honest and consistent than SSPX.

SSPX claims to recognize the Pope as the legitimate successor of Peter, only if they consider it profitable for themselves: for their fundraising bonanzas. For ex: in an SSPX priory in New Manila, the priest there is making emotional appeals to the benefactors and laity for money for the purchase of their property. For every P5,000 donation, a donor will receive a Papal Blessing Certificate from Rome. Nothing bad in it really, but you can't lambast an institution at the pulpit and then derive profits from it afterwards by invoking its prestige and honor in front of your benefactors who happen to have some personal attachment to the Bishop of Rome.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

October 1, 2010 9:00 AM

Anonymous said...

there can be no question that the sspx which in not in schism as even admitted by cardinal castrillon hoyos of the pontifical commission Ecclesia Dei,and which is not sedevacantist. ultimately. the sspx will return to Peter's full embrace,presumably after Rome has abandoned the failed policies of Vatican II. something we are convinced must ( and will) happen in God's good time.

it is our considered opinion, however ,that the " state of emergency " at this point, far from having subsided, has become so firmly entrenched in the human element of the church that nothing short of divine intervention can restore holy mother church. since the church is no longer even able to generate the priestly vocation neccessary to provide the faithful with the sacraments. the rise in the number of " priestless parishes" is a grim reminder of this reality. By the way, am not talking of philippines alone. but, WORLD , you sold to sspx a lot of churches already ,PUNKY FREAK hehehe....

October 1, 2010 12:01 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[there can be no question that the sspx which in not in schism as even admitted by cardinal castrillon hoyos of the pontifical commission Ecclesia Dei,and which is not sedevacantist.]

HA, HA, HA... CARDINAL CASTRILLON HOYOS STATED IT BASED ON THE LIES AND DECEITS OF SSPX OFFICIALS THAT THEY RESPECT AND HONOR THE HOLY FATHER. BUT IF CARDINAL HOYOS WILL READ THE ATTACKS AGAINST THE HOLY FATHER AND THE ECUMENICAL COUNCIL HOW THE SSPX FOLLOWERS ARE BRAGGING THAT THE POPE IN ROME IS IN HERESY THEN THERE WILL BE CONDEMNATIONS INSTEAD.

WE LET CARDINAL HOYOS DEAL WITH SSPX OFFICIALS AND WE DEAL WITH THE SSPX BASTARDS HERE. DEFNITELY CALLING THE POPE HERETICS AND THE COUNCIL NEOMODERNIST WHICH IS INCOMPATIBLE ALLEGEDLY WITH THE CATHOLIC TRADITION IS UNACCEPTABLE TO THE CHURCH OF ROME.

[ultimately. the sspx will return to Peter's full embrace]

HA, HA, HA... YOU ALREADY ADMITTED THAT YOU ARE NOT IN FULL EMBRACE OF PETER. SO THAT MAKES YOU SCHISMATIC. YOU ARE SEPARATED FROM PETER WHILE WE ARE FULLY UNITED WITH PETER AND WE REJECT THE AUTHORITY OF SSPX LEADERS.

[,presumably after Rome has abandoned the failed policies of Vatican II.]

YOU WILL DIE AND ROT IN YOUR COFFIN BUT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL NOT ABANDON THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL. YOU WILL ROT LIKE THE ARIANS AND NESTORIANS BUT THE ROMAN CHURCH WILL NOT BUDGE.

THE VATICAN II IS SUCCESSFUL. IT HAS SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED ITS DEVELOPMENT IN THE CHURCH WITH VERY MINIMAL OPPOSITION FROM VERY VERY FEW SSPX. THE LITURGY HAS BEEN SIMPLIFIED FROM THE OVERLY CAPRICIOUS ONES PREFERRED BY SSPX. THE PEOPLE ENJOYS THE VERNACULAR IN THE LITURGY WHILE THE SSPX ARE ROTTING LIKE MADE DOGS IN THEIR HATE OF THE POPE AND VATICAN II. HA, HA, HA... WHAT A SUCCESS.

[ something we are convinced must ( and will) happen in God's good time.]

YOU WILL DIE AS DISAPPOINTED AS LEFEBVRE. HA, HA, HA... WILLIAMSON IS ALREADY SENILE AND AGING BUT HE TOO WILL DIE DISAPPOINTED. HE, HE, HE...

[it is our considered opinion, however ,that the " state of emergency " at this point,]

THE CHURCH IS NOT IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY. THAT VIEW WAS PROPOSED BY LEFEBVRE AS AN ALIBI TO COVER HIS DEMONIC REBELLION AGAINST THE SEE OF PETER. THE PROBLEMS OF THE CHURCH ARE NORMAL SITUATION BECAUSE THERE IS NO SINGLE ERA WHEN THE CHURCH IS NOT CONFRONTED BY TRIALS AND PROBLEMS.

[far from having subsided, has become so firmly entrenched in the human element of the church that nothing short of divine intervention can restore holy mother church.]

IT IS THE SSPX WHICH IS IN NEED OF RESTORATION BECAUSE IT IS CUT OFF FROM THE TREE THAT IS PETER. THAT IS WHY YOUR SOCIETY HAS BECOME SOCIETY OF THE POPELESS AND IS ROTTING. IT NEEDS TO DECEIVE JUST TO GET NEW MEMBERS AND FOLLOWERS.

[since the church is no longer even able to generate the priestly vocation neccessary to provide the faithful with the sacraments.]

HA, HA, HA... THE NUMBER OF SEMINARIANS IN THE U.S. ALONE HAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY. THE SAME FOR AFRICA. IT IS A MATTER OF DISTRIBUTION OF THE CLERGY FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.

LAST NATIONAL CONGRESS OF PHIL. CLERGY, THE FILIPINO PRIESTS ALONE FILLED THE CUNETA ASTRODOME WITH ABOUT 5,000 PRIESTS. HA, HA, HA... THE SSPX ANIMALS ARE LUCKY TO HAVE 10 PRIESTS FOR THE ENTIRE PHILIPPINES.

[the rise in the number of " priestless parishes" is a grim reminder of this reality.]

I STILL HAVE TO SEE A PRIESTLESS PARISH. WHERE? HA, HA, HA...

[By the way, am not talking of philippines alone. but, WORLD , you sold to sspx a lot of churches already ,PUNKY FREAK hehehe....]

HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE FREE TO HALLUCINATE. IT IS NORMAL FOR THE CHURCH TO EXPERIENCE SUCH A THING. WHY DON'T YOU GO TO CARTHAGE IF YOU WILL STILL ENCOUNTER THE SAME NUMBER OF CATHOLICS PRESENT THERE AS IN THE TIME OF ST. CYPRIAN, GO TO HIPPO, TO ANTIOCH, EVEN IN JERUSALEM, CORINTH... HE, HE, HE... THE CHURCH LOOSES SOME BUT WINS MORE.

DON'T FORGET THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL OF TRENT HAS DECIDED TO COUNTER THE REFORMATION OF EUROPE HIS HOLINESS POPE ST. PIUS V FAILED TO STOP THE CONVERSION TO PROTESTANTISM OF MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF CATHOLICS. IF I WILL BASE MY ASSESSMENT IN YOUR CRITERION THEN THE COUNCIL OF TRENT AND POPE ST. PIUS V ARE FAILURES TOO BECAUSE IT FAILED TO KEEP MILLIONS OF SOULS IN THE CATHOLIC FOLD.

I WILL CHALLENGE YOU: YOUR CORPSE WILL ROT BUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SHALL REMAIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

ARIUS, NESTORIUS, LUTHER, CALVIN AND LEFEBVRE HAVE ALL DIED BUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS STILL THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND MUCH MORE. HE, HE, HE... HA, HA, HA...

WHEN EUROPE FAILS TO PRODUCE VOCATIONS THEN AFRICANS AND FILIPINO MISSIONARIES WILL GO THERE TO WIN THE CONTINENT FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HA, HA, HA... JUST LIKE THIS YEAR. THE DIOCESE OF SORSOGON WHERE I BELONG SENT 15 PRIESTS TO SERVE IN THE UNITED STATES. HA, HA, HA...

October 1, 2010 1:50 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

HA, HA, HA... REALLY? THE SSPX PRIORY IN MANILA IS USING A PAPAL BLESSING CERTIFICATE IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE DONATIONS. HA, HA, HA... SEE... HA, HA, HA...

October 1, 2010 2:17 PM