Pope John Paul the Great and a Moslem leader-
Why did the Pope (John Paul II) kissed the Koran? Is he recognizing the legitimacy of the Koran and all the teachings contained therein.? I can't find any justifiable reason about what he did. It was a very shameful thing and a slap on the Church as the true Church of Jesus. Another mistaken move in the name of extreme and false ecumenism! Ecumenism means inviting all people to the unity of the Catholic Faith not compromising the truths of the Faith for the sake of superficial unity!
- Fr. Abe, CRS said...
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[Why did the Pope (John Paul II) kissed the Koran?]
BECAUSE IT WAS OFFERED TO HIM TO BE KISSED. IF HE REFUSED HE WOULD HAVE INSULTED HIS HOSTS. THE POPE DID IT AS A SIGN OF RESPECT TO THE MOSLEMS WHO LOVE THAT BOOK BUT OF COURSE, THE MOSLEMS KNOW THAT THE POPE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE KORAN.
[Is he recognizing the legitimacy of the Koran and all the teachings contained therein.?]
DEFINITELY NOT.
THE POPE WENT TO THE COUNTRY HE WAS VISITING THEN TO STRENGTHEN THE FAITH OF THE CATHOLICS. BESIDES THE POPE WEARS THE CROSS AND HIS VERY PERSON IS A MANIFESTATION OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH. JOHN PAUL THE GREAT LIVED AND DIED A CATHOLIC UNLIKE LEFEBVRE WHO LIVED AND DIED AN EXCOMMUNICATED BASTARD.
THE POPE ENGAGED THE MOSLEMS IN DIALOGUES BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO LESSEN THE TENSIONS BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLES AND TO SHOW HIS GOODWILL LIKE THE LORD JESUS WHO SPEAKS WITH THE SAMARITANS OR THE PHARISEES OR THE MEMBERS OF THE SANHEDRIN THE POPE IS ALSO ENGAGING IN DIALOGUE WITH OTHERS. UNLIKE LEFEBVRE WHO WAS USELESS AND NEVER FACED ISLAM FOR DIALOGUES. HE WAS LIKE ANNAS AND CAIAPHAS WHO WERE SO ARROGANT ON OTHERS.
IF THE SSPX ARE AGAINST ISLAM THEN LET THEM FACE THE MOSLEMS FAIRLY AND SQUARELY AND REJECT THE KORAN RIGHT ON THEIR FACES. LET ME SEE IF THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO SO.
[I can't find any justifiable reason about what he did.]
YOU CAN'T FIND ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO LOVE IN YOUR HEART AND YOU ARE NOT IN THE POSITION OF THE POPE WHO WANTED TO END WARS BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLES.
THE SSPX ARE ONLY GOOD IN SOWING HATE BUT A FAILURE IN UNDERSTANDING ACTS OF LOVE AND GENEROSITY. THEY ARE ALWAYS BITTER IN ECUMENISM, IN LITURGY... IN EVERYTHING. THEY ARE THE MODERN DAY PHARISEES WHO DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY GOOD IN OTHERS EXCEPT WHAT THEY THINK IS RIGHT.
THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT ACT IS THE DIVINE COMMAND OF "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR". IF YOUR FRIENDS LOVE A BOOK SO MUCH THAT THEY CONSIDER IT SACRED, THEN AT LEAST OUT OF FRIENDSHIP SHOW RESPECT ON THAT BOOK, OR HIS SHOES, OR HIS MOTHER, OR HIS GARDEN... EVERYTHING THAT YOUR FRIENDS LOVE YOU WILL LOVE EVEN THOUGH IN MANY OCCASIONS YOU DISAGREE WITH THOSE THINGS...
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[It was a very shameful thing and a slap on the Church as the true Church of Jesus.]
IT WAS NOT SHAMEFUL. IT WAS A FRIENDLY GESTURE, A MANIFESTATION OF RESPECT OF OTHERS. DEFINITELY IT WAS NOT A SLAP ON THE CHURCH BECAUSE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT ENERGIZED THE CHURCH AND STRENGTHENED IT MORE THAN YOU DO.THERE IS NO POPE IN HISTORY WHO GATHERED AND TALKED TO THE YOUTH OF THE WORLD THE WAY JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DID. BESIDES, OTHER POPES NEVER ENCOUNTERED THAT SITUATION BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY SCRATCH THEIR BACKS INSIDE THE VATICAN AND NEVER WENT OUT TO VISIT EVERY NATIONS AND PEOPLES AND CULTURES OF THE WORLD AS JOHN PAUL THE GREAT, PAUL VI AND BENEDICT XVI DID. AMONG THEM ALL JOHN PAUL THE GREAT WAS THE GREATEST MISSIONARY POPE. NOT EVEN ST. PAUL COULD EQUAL WHAT HE DID PRACTICALLY FOR THE MISSIONS OF THE CHURCH.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT UNDER THE DYNAMIC LEADERSHIP OF JOHN PAUL THE GREAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH INCREASED BY MORE THAN 100 MILLION IN AFRICA ALONE AND WE DEFEATED THE MOSLEMS IN NUMBER OF CONVERSIONS IN THAT CONTINENT?
AFTER THE GULF WARS IT WAS EASY FOR THE MOSLEMS TO DECLARE WAR AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BUT THROUGH THE ECUMENICAL EFFORTS OF POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT THE TENSION DIDN'T TURN INTO A FULL CLASH OF TWO RELIGIONS.
JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DID THAT WHILE THE SSPX LEADERSHIP WERE SILENT AND USELESS.
[Another mistaken move in the name of extreme and false ecumenism!]
THE FALSE ECUMENISM IS REFUSAL OF DIALOGUE. THAT IS NOT CATHOLIC THAT IS SATANIC. THAT IS INHUMAN.
THE SSPX AND THE ULTRA TRADITIONAL ARE ANGRY AT THAT BECAUSE THE POPE SHOWED TOO MUCH GOODWILL. A KIND OF GOODWILL THAT IS ABSENT IN THEIR HEARTS. THEY ARE ANGRY BECAUSE THE POPE HAS EXCEEDED THEIR CRITERION OF GOODNESS AND PEACE.
[Ecumenism means inviting all people to the unity of the Catholic Faith not compromising the truths of the Faith for the sake of superficial unity!]
THE POPE NEVER COMPROMISED. NEVER EVER. SHOWING KINDNESS IS NOT COMPROMISING. IT IS CALLED 'CHARITY' AND IT COMES FROM THE THEOLOGY OF THE CROSS.
BESIDES, JOHN PAUL II CONVERTED MORE PEOPLE TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH MORE THAN THE EXCOMMUNICATED REBEL LEFEBVRE.
READ THE CONVERSION STORIES OF FORMER PROTESTANTS AND ATHEISTS WHO CONVERTED TO THE FAITH THEY SHOWER JOHN PAUL THE GREAT WITH PRAISES AND GRATITUDE FOR HELPING THEM FIND THE TRUTH IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. WE NOVUS ORDO PEOPLE ARE THE ONES CONVERTING THE HERETICS BACK TO THE CATHOLIC FOLD NOT THE SSPX.
- WHEN JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DIED THE MOSLEM LEADERS INCLUDING THOSE OF SYRIA AND IRAN AND PAKISTAN CAME TO PAY HOMAGE. IT MEANS THAT THE FRIENDSHIP IS REAL. WHEN LEFEBVRE DIED NOT EVEN THE BIRDS WEEP. WHEN JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DIED THE WHOLE WORLD CRIED EXCEPT THE EVIL HEARTS OF SSPX AND THE SEDEVACANTISTS.
YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT READING THE CONVERSION STORIES OF HUNDREDS AND EVEN THOUSANDS OF PROTESTANT MINISTERS AND PASTORS CONVERTING TO THE CHURCH. YOU ONLY LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS OF THE CHURCH AND BLAME IT ON THE POPE EXCEPT YOURSELVES.
THANK GOD FOR JOHN PAUL THE GREAT. JOHN PAUL II WE LOVE YOU! JOHN PAUL II WE LOVE YOU! JOHN PAUL II WE LOVE YOU!
VIVA EL PAPA! DOWN WITH THE SSPX ANIMALS - HERETICS AND SCHISMATICS.
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